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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It hasn't happened often enough.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you don't understand journalists holding people to account for their misdeeds, I'm not sure how to explain it to you.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How many years that he's never been held accountable

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

By whom? Do you think journalists have the power to prosecute him for war crims?

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No I do not. Neither does anyone else far as I can see. BTW, his war crimes were mostly against his own people.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, the Laotians and Cambodians were definitely his own people. For sure. He's half Lao and half Camboian.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While he was pissing around, 20,000 US troops died. I believe you're thinking of Nixon who was Commander in Chief.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No I'm not.

The German-born political scientist joined the Nixon administration in 1969 as the president's national security advisor and was promoted to secretary of state in 1973. As the primary architect of the American bombing and invasion of Cambodia, Kissinger believed that these actions were necessary to prevent both Cambodia and South Vietnam from falling to communism.

https://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/cambodia/profile02.html

More here:

https://theintercept.com/2023/05/25/intercepted-henry-kissinger-cambodia/

https://theintercept.com/2023/05/23/henry-kissinger-cambodia-bombing-survivors/

Fucking sad how people don't know history that recent.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lived it mate, and am well aware that his advice couldn't be followed without Nixon.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry... you're saying he isn't a war criminal because he didn't make the final decision even though he planned the whole thing? Really?

Is Dick Cheney innocent despite being the architect of two wars that killed millions of people because George W. Bush had to say yes?

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, I'm saying he isn't the war criminal you think he is. Just as Dick Cheney, who can be accused of many things, didn't make the decision to invade Iraq. Bush did.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you really saying Dick Cheney isn't a war criminal? This is insane.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I said dick Cheney could be accused of many things, but giving orders to invade Iraq isn't one of them.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except that's exactly what he did. He was the architect. Architects don't build houses, but it's ultimately their design. If something goes wrong with the design, it's not the construction company's fault. You seem to think that if a house collapses because it was designed to be structurally unsound, it's the fault of the person who bought the land.

There would have been no secret bombing campaign if not for Kissinger and we wouldn't have invaded Iraq without Cheney. They are absolutely, unequivocally war criminals.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is the fault of the person who ordered the house built.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because architects who design flawed buildings are blameless?

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now entering NaNa land.

The president is responsinle for the decisions made and the orders given.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So absolutely no one else is ever responsible for anything that the U.S. ever does except whoever is president at the time. That is your assertion.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it's a military order from the President, no.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So only 45 people have ever been responsible for anything the U.S. military has ever done?

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Got it, so based on this, the Nuremberg trials were a great injustice and not a single Nazi official should have been hanged since not a single one of them was responsible for anything in WWII- not the war, not the Holocaust. Just Hitler. Solely responsible.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nazis in Nuremberg were tried for crimes against humanity not war crimes. Different.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, so Kissinger is guilty of crimes against humanity. Got it.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Could be. The UN is the first place you have to get agreement, the the International Court. Go for it.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now you're trying to weasel out of the question. I think what this is actually about is you have some weird respect for Kissinger and don't think he did anything wrong when he illegally bombed two countries and killed thousands of innocent people.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

NO, I'm just getting tired of you. You're not bright but you make up for it by being persistent.

Kissinger is an asshole and always has been, but in the end his boss, Nixon, called the play.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Insulting me doesn't change the fact that you have spent a long time and a lot of effort trying to show how innocent Kissinger is. Maybe you aren't aware of that?

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But insulting you is so much fun. I will celebrate when Kissinger is gone the same way I celebrated Nixon's death.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You think insulting people is fun, do you?

So basically you want Lemmy to be Reddit.

I'll have no part in that. Goodbye.