I like the idea of UBI too. I hope it happens and that we transition into a UBS model once its success is shown to the world. That being said it's important to front that with me not being in support of the neofeudal UBI that silicon valley techbros push for. That would be a disaster.

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Hard agree on all points. It's a bit of a bummer that Andrew yang of all people was the one to start the national conversation about UBI because his whole deal just pollutes the discussion from the jump

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It did at least introduce the concept to a lot of people, especially to those who have otherwise never have heard of it.

Kind of like what Bernard Sandman did. He introduced people to a bastardized version of socialism but that still got people talking.

[–] Peaty@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

Also for a guy with a Math pin he ignored key parts of the UBI research he used for his position and repeatedly misrepresented the figures in it.

The projection that the economy would grow because of UBI was in the part of the Roosevelt Institute study that posited the money would just appear from the sky whereas the growth rates projected from tax financed UBI were almost zero as would be expected.