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[–] harmonea@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

The key word is "disorder" though.

Everyone experiences anxiety from time to time, just like everyone has minor bouts of depression or invasive compulsions. Some non-disordered might even still experience them often.

Not everyone experiences these feelings pervasively to a degree it prevents them from socioeconomic success (making friends, going outside, finding and keeping a job, etc).

[–] SoylentBlake@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (8 children)

If the majority of people have it, wouldn't that make it the order of things and not a disorder?

If everyone has the same affliction then that's just the norm. Better questions would be centered on what is it about society that is engendering these new social norms?

But that would take real discussions, dive into politics and economics and necessitate actual actions instead of just more NeoLiberal busybody posturing. Keep kicking that can down the road boomers, it is after all, all you've ever fucking done, besides let the country devolve into dilapidation and disrepair under your watch. Institutionalized neglect, smh

[–] harmonea@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

I was only discussing the definition of a disorder. But if you want to get into sophistry and impotent political venting, sure. If 60% of people can't make connections with others or hold down a job because of their mental health, I question anyone who would call that anything but a disordered society, and that includes you saying it's "the order of things."

That said, this is an informal self-reported poll with a possibly exaggerated headline. It's entirely possible the actual disorder most of GenZ has is self-diagnosis and identity culture, in which if one doesn't have a disorder or three, one becomes the weirdo in a group.

I found this line from the article especially telling:

The survey also showed that 2 out of 5 go to therapy and 53 percent have gotten professional help for mental health at some point.

Notice how 53% is less than 60? And we'd have to assume each and every one of the 53% was diagnosed with an anxiety disorder on those "at some point" visits to come close to supporting the headline's claim.

I think if measurable socioeconomic markers supported the 60% number, it would be bigger news. Are they more anxious, sure. But again... anxiety does not imply anxiety disorder. As it stands, publishing inaccurate headlines like this makes people take the real issues -- and there ARE a lot of big, pervasive societal issues at play -- less seriously.

(And because I know y'all need to hear it: if you, dear reader, have a professional diagnosis, none of this is talking about you.)

[–] xinayder@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Going to therapy doesn't mean you have a disorder.

[–] harmonea@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm aware. That was the point of me pointing out that you'd have to assume all 53% had been diagnosed with an anxiety disorder. It's incredibly unrealistic. And yet 60% have a disorder? There is absolutely self-diagnosis happening.

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