It does feel like a lot of people trying to justify their piracy are just looking for excuses for something that they personally feel is wrong, but they want to do anyway… but I do think that free access to data and information is something that people can legitimately care about. Libraries are a good socially acceptable example of this (and they definitely fall under the “get shit for free” movement!), and it’s not entirely crazy or cringe for people to want more libraries in life and fewer walled gardens.

[–] diomnep@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Give me an opportunity to pay to access the content easily for a reasonable price. It’s all I ask.

I used to have a huge pirated music collection, and now I have no pirated music at all because it became convenient and reasonably priced to listen to the music I want the way I want to listen to it.

For quite awhile I had no pirated TV or Movies because the content I wanted to watch was available on Netflix and HBO Go. Now I have a lot of content pirated because I’m not going to pay $10-$25 monthly to pay for a streaming service for every show I want to watch. And another $10-$25 monthly for every show my kids want to watch.

To be clear, I am not claiming any moral high ground. That shit is out there for free and unless these companies can find a way back to reasonably-priced streaming I am going to continue taking it because I have a limited budget and TV/Movies are only worth a certain amount of money to me.

[–] Chobbes@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Absolutely! It’s also frustrating that you can’t just buy a digital copy of a movie or something for a relatively cheap price? I just want the digital equivalent of bargain bin DVDs and libraries. I don’t want to pay $20/mo to not own anything?

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh when it comes to digital preservation it's all good we need that as it's often the only way to access a ton of media.

Just don't tell me you're fighting capitalism cuz that computer and Internet connection says otherwise 😂 also if you're boycotting something like Ubisoft or Disney, like don't even pirate their stuff, what are you doing?

[–] Chobbes@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It definitely seems more idealistic when it’s academic papers instead of Marvel movies, haha. Still, I guess it feels like the only way to get the upper hand for some people, so I can kind of understand the catharsis. I think for most people it’s just “get shit free”, some people feel like it’s a small act of rebellion, some people want an excuse to feel better about it, and some people probably are actually more idealistic about it.

I think there are legitimate questions for society in relation to piracy, though. Copying and transmitting data is essentially free in the modern era, and I feel like we still haven’t really figured out what that should mean. The issue of ownership is getting really weird in the digital age too… Like you used to be able to lend and resell things, and libraries with physical media were a simpler concept… but these things are tricky and cause problems when copying and sharing is so effective. I think there’s arguments to be had that this a pretty fundamental shift and that we should potentially reconsider how media and other things work economically.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I forgot about academic papers. That shit should be on Wikipedia or Archive. Literal knowledge shouldn't be copyright-able. Shout out to the data hoarders on that one.

[–] Chobbes@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

EXACTLY. Academic publishing is actually kind of insane. It’s not like buying the paper even funds the research, it just goes to the publisher… and sure, you could argue that they do a service by basically being a muster point for peer review… but it just feels SO WRONG to put research (especially public funded research) behind a paywall.

The case for movies and games is absolutely a more contentious issue, but there are some similar arguments for the current system being a little dated (especially with respect to copyright law and how long it takes before works enter the public domain). All things being equal (e.g., assuming the creators can still make a living) the more people who have access the better! Of course it’s far less important that you can watch the latest movies or whatever (vs somebody accessing a research paper about a disease they have or something), but it’s still a bit of a shame to restrict access, and it feels like your ability to own copies of media is being eroded over time… And maybe that is worth caring about a little bit?