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[–] InevitableWaffles@midwest.social 78 points 1 year ago (42 children)

In the marketplace of ideas, rightwing thoughts will be mocked, as they always should been...

[–] Track_Shovel 55 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Lemmy feels a lot more authentic to real life. If I started talking about tinfoil hat conspiracies, my friends would ridicule me to no end.

As they should.

Same here.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I start talking to random people in a bar odds are I won't meet a single one who will start calling me a Nazi because I believe in the Uyghur genocide...

[–] Track_Shovel 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How is the Uyghur genocide a right wing thing? I'm out of the loop here

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

Tankies tend to assume any accusation against a Marxist state is either a lie or the victims deserved it.

One of the reasons is that you've got people like the Heritage Foundation running around including Nazis in their "victims of socialism" lists.

Both as the victims and perpetrators btw, lmao.

Mostly though they just seem weirdly stuck in a Cold War mentality.

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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago

Go ask the hexbear users!

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[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Honestly, this place is full of communists. I’m not the biggest fan of communists, to be frank. There is a lot of backwards ideas that get accepted as “leftist,” when they’re really statist. Particularly revisionist history statist. If a communist party said it, you gotta defend it kinda thing.

[–] InevitableWaffles@midwest.social 31 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don't identify as a communist. I just don't want life to be unreasonably difficult for people. Thats it. I just what the promise of what labor was supposed to be. I want it to free us from the shackles of work or die. Guess that is extreme left now even with tankies around the corner from us.

[–] Carvex@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Exactly. We have 50 years of computer driven exponential growth and not a fucking thing is better for us. We don't work less, travel more, be richer, live a better life, or have a better future for the planet. It should make everyone anti-capitalist.

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[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This. When I was younger I considered myself pretty centrist, generally people would agree. My views never really changed, but the Overton window has shot so far right I now get called a commie (I guess here I'm a tankie? Still dunno wtf that's about except a slur for 'left of Biden') because I think a 40 hour work week should put a basic roof over your head, whether an efficency on your own or a roomie in a nicer spot.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

(I guess here I’m a tankie? Still dunno wtf that’s about except a slur for ‘left of Biden’)

As far as I can make out, tankies are people who support communist governments even when they go way too far. So even though leaders like Jinping are essentially dictators, because they're ostensibly communist the tankies support them.

At least that's what I've seen from a few weeks on lemmy. I'm sure some tankies will be along to correct me soon.

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[–] Rottcodd@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is a lot of backwards ideas that get accepted as “leftist,” when they’re really statist.

This is my objection too.

All too many people here don't seem to even begin to understand the inherent threats of institutionalized authority, so in their rush to head off the recreation of the Third Reich, they're basically advocating for the recreation of the Khmer Rouge instead.

[–] Anamana@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (17 children)

Define 'full of communists'.. cause it sounds like such an american phrase and perspective. To me, it's just a more leftwing centered space. The real communists are a minority. At least on the biggest Lemmy servers.

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[–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Tell that to Voat, or Gab. There's plenty of offshoot free speech platforms that got flooded with actual racists and Nazis the same way that Lemmy got flooded with actual communists and anarchists.

[–] drbluefall@toast.ooo 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's because when you have a new platform, a lot of your first users will be the worst kinds of people to exist on the internet. It's why """free speech absolutist""" spaces quickly devolve into nazi hellscapes that repel all but the most equally toxic and revolting people unless they cut their claim to absolute free speech.

[–] wetnoodle@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah, any 'free speech absolutist' platform turns into a Nazi fascist bigot safe space because they refuse to moderate the platform

[–] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ah, Voat. Come for the freedom of speech, decide not to stay because ABSOLUTE freedom of speech inevitably becomes racist.

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There aren't a lot of anarchists here, going by the anarchist communities I've seen.

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[–] Carvex@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

A heel dragging regressive policy opinion should always be met as such. The world will never go back to the Wild West with gun laws, whites owning everything, women are property etc; to have a political viewpoint desiring these things and feel that it is correct is laughable.

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