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[–] jarfil@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Representative democracy with voting rights for all citizens over the age of majority might be the best system we've tried

Where? Closest thing I see is a "Rule of representatives elected by representatives elected by less than half the citizens over the age of majority" thing.

[–] CapitalismsRefugee@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I believe that's the point being made. "Representative Democracy", or at least the pretense of which some live under at this time, is the best we ("we" referring to a particular group of people, not humanity as a sum) have found so far.

[–] jarfil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I get the point. My point is that we're still far from trying an actual "Representative Democracy" for any largish group of people, and that the Democracy of ancient Greece, with all its glaring flaws, was more Democratic than anything we have right now.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think everyone being forced to elect would yield better results.

[–] jarfil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As opposed to FPTP, gerrymandering, multi-layer representative cutoffs, regional vote weight balancing, or the D'Hondt method?

What's your basis to think that?

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not american and know about half of those words.

[–] jarfil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not USA-n either, so only most of those apply to the flavor of "democracy" I get. It's still a good exercise to know about the options.

[–] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's democracies that are not the USA, you know

[–] jarfil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Indeed. I highly encourage everyone to learn about how "democratic" they actually are.

[–] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're gonna have to explain that if you want it to mean anything

[–] jarfil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure:

Indeed.

Expression of agreement with the previous comment.

I highly encourage everyone to learn...

My wish is to improve the knowledge of the reader and anyone else...

...about how "democratic" they actually are.

...about the different political systems which get called "democracies" by different countries around the world, and how their practical applications differ from the idealized concept of "democracy".

[–] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago