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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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ALLIES

!abolition@slrpnk.net

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r/ACAB

r/BadCopNoDonut/

Randy Balko

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Identity Project

MirandaWarning.org

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INFO

A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions

Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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ORGANIZATIONS

Black Lives Matter

Campaign Zero

Innocence Project

The Marshall Project

Movement Law Lab

NAACP

National Police Accountability Project

Say Their Names

Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration

 

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[–] cricket97@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I want criminals to be punished. That's all.

[–] TopShelfVanilla@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At any cost. We get it. You fantasize getting to kill whoever gets in your way as you act as cop, judgy, jury and executioner. I hope you get in your heroes' way some day.

[–] cricket97@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You're a little crazy. I'm neither a cop, a judge or an executioner. I'm just some dude on the internet with the opinion that we shouldn't let criminals free because of freak accidents.

You're a bootlicking asshole who worships cops. Your idea of justice is catch the "criminal" and damn anyone that gets in the way. Fuck you man. I hope you become some of that collateral damage one day. I hope your family gets to miss you because you were in the wrong place at the wrong time as some careless pig chased a stolen car straight into your driver's side door.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This page is about exposing and explaining the police problem, for those willing to listen and learn. Questions and quibbles are welcome, but you've asked your question and it's been answered several times, which brings us to a Rule 2 reminder: If you're here to support the police, you're trolling. Please exercise your right to remain silent.

[–] cricket97@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then stop responding dummy. I also didn't ask any questions. Stop being a weirdo and trying to appeal to some broad rule because you don't like what I'm saying.

[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

While also allowing those who disagree with my original comment to wish death upon those with the same opinion as me. Wishing death on us while also saying innocent people shouldn't die because of cops. Bunch of hypocrites in here. My only point was the title was clickbait but now we're being called names and having death wished upon us.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

In all your comments, you've expressed only your concern about a Ford F150, no worries at all about the late Sharon Ault.