political participation everywhere is close to zero. i'd say the same group who says it's fun is another site of the group that justify it with mental gymnastics. just two different kinds of idiots (in the Greek sense of the word).

edit: damn we all fallen for the troll 😞

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

war is continuation of theft.

Imperialist war, yes. Liberation war, like for example the revolutionary war, is stopping the theft. So, continuation of politics anyway.

[–] fu@libranet.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@gcb @PolandIsAStateOfMind is there a particular revolutionary war you speak of? Most of those I am familiar with, including that of the country in which I reside, are more about which particular group gets to do the oppressing.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Many. For example, French revolution and the wars after it until thermidorian reaction. Or February revolution and after that went to shit, October one and the ensuing civil war. Haitan revolution. Peasant War in Germany. Xinhai revolution, then war against Japanese then civil war. Greek Independence war. Many irish or polish uprisings. Vietnam War. Etc etc. It don't even have to be 100% ideologically pure (it never is btw). Hell even the aggressive war can be just like Vietnam invasion on Cambodia.

are more about which particular group gets to do the oppressing.

State by its very nature is machine used by ruling class to opress others. Yet not every opression is equal. Again, if you expect total ideological purity manifested in flesh, you will get disappointed every time.

[–] fu@libranet.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@PolandIsAStateOfMind @gcb what makes you say "political participation everywhere is close to zero"?

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

I never said this, it's the other guy you want.