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[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Besides. Ukraine gave up nukes because we promised to protect them. There's a tremendous cost to going back on our word for soooo many reasons.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We didn't promise to protect them. But Russia and the US both promised not to invade.

Of course, we should still help them because it's the right thing to do AND is harmful to our average.

But I do think the worst thing about this war from a geopolitics standpoint is Russia going back on its word. They've essentially proven that no nation should ever give up their nukes.

[–] AssPennies@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

no nation should ever give up their nukes

No nation within invasion distance of Russia, anyway.

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

I feel like that was a huge oversight of the Budapest memorandum. You get promises that the two global powers would not invade you, but you get nobody to actually enforce it. And Russia showed that those promises are empty. I get that having guarantees to defend opens another can of worms, but it's probably better than the situation we're in now where we're now unlikely to see anyone else give up nukes.