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[–] trailing9@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The theme is that I think that workers miss their opportunities when they frame the situation as a billionaire problem.

[–] unfreeradical@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fighting among ourselves for the crumbs left for us by those who pillage and hoard hardly seems the same as seizing the best opportunities.

Billionaires are the problem.

They hold all the power, but make no contribution. They shape society against the common interests of most of the population.

[–] trailing9@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I prefer to think that billionaires are not the only ones who can bring an end to the infighting.

The population chooses to be shapen.

The population can choose differently, unless they reaffirm each other that only billionaires can create change.

[–] unfreeradical@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who claimed "only billionaires can create change?"

[–] trailing9@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I figured because you wrote that they are the problem.

[–] unfreeradical@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Billionaires are the problem.

They should not exist.

They are not able to create change, only to maintain the status quo, in which they continue to cause problems for everyone else.

[–] trailing9@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Extra comment for billionaire contributions.

To put it bluntly: if they shape society, is that no contribution?

With some struggling, workers could invest part of their wages but they live paycheck to paycheck, of course often also not entirely by their own choice.

Instead of asking everybody to save, money is pooled in billionaires who don't struggle when they invest.

That creates an unfair power imbalance but workers could change everything with taxes if they suffered too much.

[–] unfreeradical@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

if they shape society, is that no contribution?

Billionaires shape society in their own interests, for unbounded accumulation of private wealth, generated from the labor of others, despite their not contributing any labor of their own, nor making any other contribution.