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I'm so lost on how to tip anymore. I remember back when 12% pre-tax was considered a really good tip, but now the kiosks recommend 20-25% (which is usually ON TOP of tax).

I already don't tip anywhere I'm not sitting down with service, but 20-25% is crazy when I'm just trying to get fed.

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[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It’s ridiculous. Servers in Canada get the same minimum wage as anyone else. It’s not like the states where they only get $2/hour.

So I’m supposed to tip $2 every time a bartender pours a pint? Like come on. Multiply that by 8 people in the bar and suddenly my bartender is making $40/hour to open and hand me beer while I make $20/hour to be responsible for the lives of children (I’m a school bus driver).

I do believe bartenders deserve more than minimum wage, but when you look at it that way it seems our priorities as a society are super skewed and that’s why I don’t go to the bar.

And before you tell me to get a better job, I already have two better jobs but I’m low on the list and don’t get enough work through them to quit the bus yet.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doesn't the US force employers to pad the employee's wage up to normal minimum wage if tips don't cover it?

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No idea, but this is the first I’ve heard of that

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped

It varies by state, but goes like this:

Many states that we care about (Washington, Oregon, California) require employers to pay state minimum wage before tips.

In other states (New York, Florida, Illinois, Massachusetts, Hawaii), employers are required to pay at least the state minimum wage after tips and are required to provide a tip credit if tips don't meet the state minimum wage threshold.

In those states where minimum wage is equal to the federal minimum, employees are required to pay at least the federal minimum wage after tips.

Nowhere is anyone legally required to be paid less than minimum wage for doing work.