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[–] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

If your TV vendor decides to only put 100Mb cards in their TV then unfortunately spikey boy wins and you lose unless you're willing to downrez your AV catalog.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They do that shit on purpose. Use a shield or an htpc. Only input your TV should be getting is HDMI.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hell no! Only DVI or DisplayPort. No money to patent trolls!

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From a signaling perspective, they're very very similar. Given that all TVs have HDMI, it may be the only option.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

DVI? Yes, basically HDMI is DVI guarded by patent trolls. DisplayPort? No, it is packet-based.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

The only real benefit to HDMI over DVI is that it carries audio where DVI does not, which is why it's used on so many TVs. I know DP can do audio too; so I'm not even going to touch on that. DVI however, can do dual-link, which IMO, makes it a much better video format regardless of any patent nonsense.

[–] DavidGA@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What the hell are you watching that has a bitrate of >100Mb? Because unless you have a 16K television I suspect the answer is nothing.

[–] funktion@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

I have a 4k blu-ray remux of Misery that has a 104 Mpbs bitrate. But there are only a couple of movies in my collection that break 100. Most of my remuxes are around 50 to 70.

Anyhoo it's all moot in terms of network speed since I just use a htpc to play all of them.

[–] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have plenty with higher bitrate audio that can hit 80. And with the overhead of the rest of the connections, and possibly just some limits on the chipset for TCP overhead etc, it starts stuttering around that 80mbps limit.

[–] WaterWaiver@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

80MBit/s audio? How?

For reference: 2x channels of 16-bit 48KHz raw uncompressed PCM audio (ie "perfect except maybe the noise floor under very very specific circumstances") is about 1.5MBit/s. Even if you go 96KHz 6 channels (5.1 setup) 24bit uncompressed PCM then it's only 14MBit + overheads.

[–] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 2 points 1 year ago

The audio isn't 80Mbps, the entire file is. The audio is TrueHD7.1, though. I probably don't need it but I haven't bothered transcoding it yet because I'm not exactly out of space or bandwidth.

[–] Koffiato@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Venn diagram of people who understand this specific technicality and people who don't want to deal with the shitty TV software is almost a circle though.

I'd rather get a Android box at the very least.., or just HTPC.

[–] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm in that Venn diagram but I'm married with kids and the UX of anything but the TV remote and Plex software is a bit much for me to convince the family to learn. And potentially relearn when I find the next great app like jellyfin 😅

I think there's another circle with at least significant overlap between those two of family techies who just can't convince the rest of the family to care.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

My wife and kids found Jellyfin easier to use because it more closely resembles Netflix. Your mileage may vary but I get it, and it's why I even use a media server over just plugging in a laptop with Kodi.

Sometimes the best solution is whatever you can get the users to actually use.

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I set up an hdmi-Ethernet converter and run Ethernet between my TV and main desktop. It solves problems.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's one solution.... unless someone wants to use the computer while you're watching something, it's fine. For any shared access TV/computer set up, this falls apart quickly.

I want my SO to be able to watch something on the TV while I'm playing a game though (and vice versa). Personally all of my stuff is independent, we each have a gaming computer, and the TV ruins separately of all of it. We have a Samsung smart TV and it has a Chromecast attached, so we have options there.... but not everyone is set up like me.

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Nobody's using this computer except me and nobody uses it for media except during group nights so it's no problem. Technically it has a PlayStation hooked up to it that could be used for DVDs/Blu-rays but that never happens.

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is that why my shit keeps buffering any time I try to stream a movie larger than 50-60 GB, despite the fact that I have a gigabit connection and a 2.5Gb router? TIL. BRB, running some speed tests on my TV...

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

It's been 9 hours, how did it go?

[–] SwagGaribaldi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I don't understand how it's acceptable for $2,000 TVs to have only 100 mbps ports, wouldn't it only cost a few cents per unit to upgrade?