There is a long list of legit and or cook reasons to have a microchip in a brain. Controlling or assisting damaged brain structures, you can mitigate the symptoms.of Parkinsons, give vision to a blind person.. but I also think the cool parts van be nice and probably are inevitable. Being able to communicate in your head, that sort of thing. I see it as something that will happen and people WILL do it.

Also, who do you think will make these chips? A fairy? Of course companies will (and already do) make them.

I think instead of screaming NONONO we should start thinking about what rules your any such companies to follow. Maybe have the design schematics be open source. A hard "off" button, somehow. A ban on ads and tracking (in combination with the hard off)

Yeah there are very start things possible, doesn't mean it has to be like that

[–] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, what is this meme? Like I get Elon is a douche. But I mean where do people think deep brain simulation and things that help tons of people already come from? We even have implantable devices that can record seizures directly from the brain surface and generate electric impulses to disrupt them. Not to mention pacemakers, spinal cord stimulators, etc. All these things have quite a lot of regulatory hurdles before reaching market. Obviously want to make sure that framework stays strong so no dystopian nonsense down the line happens. Once we get to the level of consumer grade brainchips, then I'll start to worry.

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Obviously want to make sure that framework stays strong so no dystopian nonsense down the line happens.

Ya, because that works with now with medicine...? I'm pretty sure legal frameworks are simply part of the dystopian plan.

[–] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Alright, we'll just rip the implants keeping patients seizure free out of their heads and tell everyone with Parkinson's sorry, brain implants have to be removed now, go back to being frozen. Saying we can't use a technology because someone might do something bad with it someday could apply to literally any technology.

Or are you proposing getting rid of legal frameworks and regulation of medications would improve them somehow? Just let big pharma go realky wild? Strengthen our regulatory frameworks by all means, stop regulatory capture and all that, but an unbridled free for all with big pharma allowed to do, sell, and say whatever it wants about its products sounds horrific. I think you're right to think the fda may have gotten a little too lenient with some approvals lately, but that's an argument for stengthening the regulations not getting rid of them.

But yeah Elon isn't allowed to sell this shit yet, and people have to elect to be involved in any trials. It's their choice. If he ever tries to sell it, he'll have to prove efficacy and safety. Without that regulatory framework he wouldn't need to do even that, could just immediately launch it and lie about the capabilities a la tesla auto pilot, duping and killing a bunch of people likely.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the dystopian plan

You should watch less tv, do less internet, and go outside a bit more

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Oh you must be one of those level 5 vegans.

See, I can spit stupid insults too.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Even with consumer grade brain chips, the risk isn't a bit thing until there is a direct interface and even then it's a question of what it can interface with. And even then it's a matter of good design. Some hardware off switch would be a basic requirement, but also software firewalling would be a very basic requirement.

Interfaces, if done right, should not have to be a dystopian future, we won't become the Borg just bectof some implant somewhere

People should watch less tv.

[–] duffman@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

"Should doctors implant microchips in people's brains". Is the question, and the answer should be 100% between the doctor and patient.

[–] Dontfearthereaper123@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Medical usage is different from the general public and when, not if, someone figures out an exploit, u can bet I'll be glad I never got one.