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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 78 points 1 year ago (51 children)

That’s all fine and dandy until people change the definition of those words to suit their needs. Then all speech they disagree with is hate speech. Which has already happened

Let's get some examples there chief.

Link what you think is "fine" and has been labeled hate speech

[–] Drewelite@lemmynsfw.com 36 points 1 year ago (18 children)

As a Floridian, the issue is pretty apparent. Conservatives are outlawing the current teachings about race in our schools all under the guise of STOPPING racism.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

But that's fascists calling reality fake...

We can't take any of them seriously. I didn't think I had to keep pointing that out in 2023.

I meant a rational person declaring something they don't like as hate speech.

Do you understand how crazy it is to say:

We can't call anything hate speech, because the people using hate speech all the time call everything they don't like hate speech

Fascists have been trying to do that forever, dont start falling for it now all of a sudden.

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[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There have been some laws passed by several states to label criticisms of Israel’s apartheid state as hate speech and outlaw BDS boycotts based on that.

Do not assume the right wing won’t try to turn whatever tactic you find effective against them back at you. That doesn’t mean you should stop using it though; they certainly aren’t going to drop it now that they’ve found a way to wield it.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's the same as the other example someone gave...

Fascists calling something hate speech so we stop talking about their fascism.

Why does this work on so many people?

What logic are you using that this means we can't use the term "hate speech" anymore?

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

I specifically said to continue using it. Right wingers using it for right wing goals doesn’t mean that it’s inherently bad or something. Labeling things hate speech is a useful tool, but don’t trick yourself into thinking your opponent can’t use it.

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