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[–] spookedbyroaches@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

It's not terrorism, it's 🌟🌍ecoterrorism🌎🌟

[–] psud@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd like just a little terrorism and murder, just enough to scare off investors and insurers from fossil fuel producers, refiners, distributors and mass users, to speed things up and maybe prevent the uncountable future deaths from failed monsoons, heat waves, overpowered storms, and eventually sea level rises

[–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

problem is the terrorists aren't liberals, they're accelerationists who want a civil war.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/10/power-grid-attacks-00114563

[–] spookedbyroaches@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're probably gonna make it worse for everyone. It's probably more profitable to have more security around the infrastructure than to just abandon it, so that's more expensive. You're gonna make it more difficult to convince people to actually believe in climate change and legislation that helps the cause, since the climate movement is associated with terrorism.

Just vote for the candidates that actually care about the climate and invest in preserving it. You can also help a little bit by using things that have a very low carbon footprint over its lifetime, like an electric car or using public transportation. These things are just off the top of my head but terrorism ain't it.

[–] psud@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Just vote for the candidates that actually care about the climate

I vote green. Americans can't unless they're willing to throw their vote away

You can also help a little bit by using things that have a very low carbon footprint over its lifetime

Cars are a tiny fraction of a country's carbon footprint

  • Energy (electricity, heat and transport): 73.2%
  • Direct Industrial Processes: 5.2%
  • Waste: 3.2%
  • Agriculture, Forestry and Land Use: 18.4%

Energy includes road transport which is 11.9%, of which cars+motorbikes+buses is 60% so 7.4% overall

Animal agriculture is about the same as passenger transport

My EV is a drop in the bucket. Only fossil fuel investors and governments can move the needle

Carbon numbers are from https://ourworldindata.org/emissions-by-sector

[–] spookedbyroaches@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I vote green. Americans can't unless they're willing to throw their vote away

Not necessarily, you can vote for someone who invests in nuclear over someone who invests back into coal

Cars are a tiny fraction of a country's carbon footprint

Maybe, but there are other steps that you can take to minimize your print. Something like a solar array. Sure these are very small steps but they aren't a money sink like they used to be and if enough people adopt them, they could do something.