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[–] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 65 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Option 3 is the only one that will change anything. Just saying.

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I don't understand why so many people are vehemently against taking up any form of personal responsibility. The idea that everyone can just shit on the environment because corporation's aren't doing enough is juvenile bs. It's a comfort zone that enables these corporations in the first place.

[–] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Because it's like pissing into the ocean and saying we've increased the water level. I mean technically yeah, but not really.

The overwhelming issue is tankers, concrete, industrial plastics, methane from cattle and "natural" gas. Individual contribution from people barely shows up at all compared to these.

[–] lieuwex@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Those companies aren't polluting for fun, are they? If nobody buys their products, no pollution is done.

Of course, a valid counterargument is that buying alternatives is too expensive (or non-existent, which most likely also has to do with price). And then the valid recourse is politics, subsidising alternatives, or in my opinion the better choice: making polluting products more expensive (by means of carbon tax or cap and trade).

[–] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I avoid buying concrete whenever I can...

As for stuff shipped overseas I buy US stuff as much as possible. I'd love to buy a US built and sourced computer and phone but I just don't think that's possible.

We avoid beef almost 100%, it's hard to get goat but it's my favorite when it's available. My wife and I aren't vegetarians but we're pretty close.

I'm not discounting what an individual can do but no amount of individual choice will change the system enough without pressure from the top. Either regulation or real competition, neither of which are on deck it seems.

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