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He made 23.5 million Euros in 2022. This guy is at the head of a Monster of a Corporation that owns: Abarth, Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Citroën, Dodge, DS, Fiat, Fiat Professional, Jeep, Lancia, Maserati, Mopar, Opel, Peugeot, Ram, and Vauxhall.

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[–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.ml 72 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Wow, none of those companies have a reputation for making quality products.

[–] ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.com 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kinda makes sense that they fit under the same umbrella. It's a large section of what I'd call mediocre car makers. Not the absolute worst, but far from the best.

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Who's worse in build quality and reliability than Chrysler, Fiat, and dodge?

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Used to be Hyundai / Kia, but they're blowing them out of the water quality, reliability and interior design wise these days.

No worse place to be than a Dodge interior.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hyundai have been making reliable cars for a very long time though, my mother has a Santa Fe with over 300k km on it.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Indeed, I feel like Hyundai / Kia cars either shit the bed really early, or last a really long time like a Toyota. No in-between.

Case in point, my 2020 Elantra blew its engine at 7,000km. Got it replaced under warranty, doing frequent maintenance on it, going strong at 70,000 km with zero issues. It just now needed brakes!

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

70k km isn't anything to brag about though.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

It's not, unless you've had issues in the first 10k km

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

Ironically, Chrysler used to be one of the most reliable brands. Once upon a time.

[–] ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Fair point. Most really cheap crap is long gone these days. But I'd rather sit in one of those three than a Land Rover, Ssangyong or Nissan (which has been plagued with horrible reliability issues as of late).

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Oh god, SsangYong. I had an LDV work van until recently, when it blew a head gasket at seven years old. Rusty piece of shit.

[–] Arepus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not true, Peugeot makes excellent pepper mills!

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it the same Peugeot though? Or is it more of a Lamborghini tractors type situation?

[–] debunker@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Pepper mills are a separate division still owned by the Peugeot family.

[–] Urbanfox@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I test drove an Alfa Romeo Giulia and it was a shambles from beginning to end.

He pulls the demo car round, and it was out of fuel, had a flat tyre, the engine management light was on, and the oil temp was sky high.

This was the demo car. The one they use to sell people on the brand.

Noped right out of there and bought German.

[–] zoe@infosec.pub 4 points 1 year ago

careful with electric driven water pump engines from vw group

[–] happyhippo@feddit.it 3 points 1 year ago

Blame the dealer, not the car.

The Giulia is a very reliable car, actually

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

The Guilia that I drove for a couple weeks was great. Sounds like that dealer was shit.

[–] OKRainbowKid@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're lame versions of Holdens mostly.

[–] JDtheGeek@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You mean Vauxhall, right? 😜

Opel, Vauxhall & Holden have mostly the same cars with different badges in different regions