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[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (7 children)

When your country is so young, nearly everybody is an immigrant. So it's hard to take pride in a family lineage that is at most 4 generations of being American. Plus, we don't really have a unified national identity. "American" could literally mean every type of person.

[–] LogarithmicCamel@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

No, this is an American thing. Other countries in the American continent have the same immigrant thing going on and we don't call ourselves Italian or whatever. We are all from the country where we were born.

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Ummm... The US was built on immigrants, what other American country is? Look at early era NY, I don't know any other country in America built off a huge influx of diversity like that. It was how the US grew, through immigration. But I'm open to being wrong if you could show me any.

For example, South/Central American countries all have their own deep, rich, and most importantly, long history of culture and heritage. The US does not, outside Native Americans that is.

[–] LogarithmicCamel@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What the hell? All countries in the continent are about the same age. Europeans after the wars fled to lots of different countries. Sao Paulo, Brazil, for example, has the largest number of Japanese immigrants in the world. My ancestors came from Italy, Hungary, Spain, and Portugal.

Maradona, the great Argentine football player, descended from native American, Spanish, Italian and Croatian ancestors. Another Argentine footballer, Lionel Messi, descended from Italian and Spanish immigrants. Bolsonaro, shitty ex-president of Brazil, has an Italian surname. He won the previous election against Fernando Haddad, who has a Turkish surname.

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's not about age. The US is a blend of cultures without a real single identity. It is very different than say Brazilian history, which is much older than the US.

Brazil was originally settled by stone-age tribes. In 1500, Portuguese explorer Pedro Alvares Cabral arrived in Brazil with 1,200 adventurers. Cabral claimed Brazil as a colony of Portugal. The first settlement was founded in 1532. Which is a few hundred years sooner than the US and not established with multiple peoples she cultures.

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