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John Fetterman says he'll 'never understand' progressives who refuse to support Joe Biden
(www.businessinsider.com)
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Then Democrats need better candidates and better policy
The time for that vote is in the primaries. THAT'S when you make your stand, have your protest, and try to move the party left. Otherwise you are ignoring someone that you agree with 50% of the time and helping someone you agree with 0% of the time.
Who's our primary choice against Biden? Remember when the DnC fucked Bernie?
The choice between a soft R vs a hard R is hardly a choice.
The DNC didn't "fuck over" Bernie. He lost. I voted for him in the primary, and would have loved to see him win the nomination. But he didn't, so I voted for the next best thing (and, you know, the non-fascist).
My understanding was that people are referring to his primary loss against Hillary when they blame the DNC for his loss. But, to be clear, you're talking about his primary loss to Biden?
That's some revisionist history. Some of us still remember Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
These responses were referring to the 2020 election. Wasserman Schultz hasn't been DNC chair since 2016.
Go look up why she turned in her resignation.
When since the 1960s, when primaries started being open to all, have they done this?
Biden "openly championed right wing ideas"? When, in the fucking 90s? And absolutely nothing happened in the years since.
Completely ignore that he's the most progressive president we've had since FDR. Or LBJ at the very least.
Would you be considered good at math? Im asking because the "math" that people have used to prove Sanders "won" is really flawed.
Biden polled better vs Trump and many stepped aside rather than risk a dictatorship in the USA.
As an aside your notion of "right wing" is either historically inaccurate or you are being inappropriately eurocentric in your views.
Move the party left? Unless you have the ability to own our own politicians, there is no 'move the party left'
This is exactly what I'm talking about. Keep putting more people in power that have zero interest in democracy and possibly plan to end it, and then...what?
That'll teach em!
Too bad they'll never have another chance when the GOP finally seizes power as they intend and finishes off what's left of our democracy.
But at least you made your point!
How many decades have we heard Democracy is on the line? Or Democracy is on the ballot? There is no democracy in the US, money has a say in our government and policy, the plebs do not. Youve been sold a bill of fear, and you paid full price for it
Yeah, there totally wasn't an attempt to overturn an election 2 years ago
Thats not an indicator theres US democracy. Dems are just as crazy with stolen elections as republicans are.
Bet you dont remember the riots the night Trump was inaugurated do you?
No. You are arguing in bad faith. There was a coordinated plan to have pence reject the results and use a false set of electors in several states to change the results. This is unique to republicans. It won't be the last time
Im not arguing in bad faith, Im pointing out democrats are as toxic as their counterparts. While trying to hold the moral authority that they are above such actions.
But they are. I just told you who tried to overturn an election. Surprise, not Democrats
They just have their voters believing they are above such tactics as election denial