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I'm not sure if this is new, but when I clicked on the /r/pics protest post link from the frontpage here, I was redirected to this: https://old.reddit.com/premium

I'm not sure if this is well-known or not that they're pushing it now, but it's the first time I've seen it, especially on old.reddit.

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[–] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm not paying for social media. Unless it's a donation to my server.

[–] rjb@aussie.zone 15 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I don't really understand this sentiment, I'd rather pay a subscription for a service like fb / insta / reddit than have ads and my identity sold to the highest bidder.

Social networks are expensive to run, the idea they should be "free" is half the problem.

Though of course the enterprises behind them make far more money through advertising and mining user data than they would through a subscription model.

[–] dxxth@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Delusional to think a paid subscription would keep them from selling your identity to the highest bidder. Even if you sued them on GDPR bases they'd gladly take that loss if you somehow won so they could keep abusing you.

It's just another revenue stream to make people feel better about their poor financial decisions.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You will pay a subscription and have ads and your identity sold to the highest bidder.

[–] hellequin67@lemmy.fmhy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

YouTube has been shown recently to be sliding ads into premium user feeds so I can only expect the same, if not worse, especially from a company so blatantly caught lying.

[–] drlecompte@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago

In the case of Reddit, apparently yes. By which they also spit in the face of their most loyal (paying) customers.

[–] drlecompte@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem is that selling your data + targeted advertising is always going to be more lucrative than a subscription model. So even if you are willing to pay a subscription, it's usually only a matter of time before the social media company in question changes tack. Especially if they have shareholders and/or venture capital investors breathing down their necks. If you run it like Wikipedia is run, I'm pretty sure you can operate a social media company on subscriptions/donations, but as a business model that doesn't make sense as it is not the least effort way to make the most money.

[–] rjb@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Yup, agree totally. Only way it can work is if the org running it is a not for profit with great transparency, which hopefully is what we will see with the likes of Lemmy etc.

There is an argument to make that things like reddit or even Facebook (original fb, not what it is now) should be publicly owned services. They CAN provide value to society, similar to how a town hall can.

[–] hellequin67@lemmy.fmhy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

I have no problem paying an app developer to remove ads.

But I'm not going to pay an organisation that has just hiked it's API prices which means it's now going to be earning a fortune from the likes of Google/Microsoft.

Fuck u/spez

[–] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Paying for social media forces you to doxx yourself. It's impossible to pay anonymously.

[–] drlecompte@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

According to that logic, I'm doxxing myself every time I go to the supermarket.

[–] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I doubt you discuss your political opinions in the supermarket.

Paying for social media would allow companies and governments to associate every opinion on the internet with a credit card.

[–] Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi 1 points 1 year ago

And even if you did discuss those opinions, the only person who would see that discussion are security guards monitoring the camera.

[–] RFBurns@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then force the companies to accept convenience-store gift cards....

[–] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It's easier not to pay for social media.

[–] doublejay3000@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago

you have grown up in a broken age

[–] TurretCorruption@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Id rather pay for a subscription for a forum site or something. I know echo chambers are dangerous, but sometimes you just need a gated community. Money makes it really easy to keep the lunatics out.

[–] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can't stay anonymous if you use a credit card to pay for social media.

[–] TurretCorruption@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The very same anonymity people use to get away with terrible behavior on free sites. I don't see the downside here.

[–] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You can't hurt anyone by saying things online. But you can be hurt if the government does not like what you are saying.

[–] withersailor@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Lunatics also have money.

A site you pay for has incentive to keep you on their site for ads and data collection. One way to do that is to keep serving data you engage with. So, keeping you in a bubble.

Diversity your sources.