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Beehaw considering Leaving Lemmy and the Fediverse (lemm.ee)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by gsa4555@lemm.ee to c/fediverselore@lemmy.ca

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A few days ago, Beehaw posted an announcement in their Chat community about the challenges of content moderation and the possibility of leaving Lemmy. That post was eventually locked.

Then, about two days ago, Beehaw posted an announcement in their support community that they aren't confident about the long-term use of Lemmy, due to so-called concerns about Lemmy.

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[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think that Lemmy provides everything that Beehaw wants in a platform, but I also don't think Lemmy devs have planned out what a federated platform should look like.

But then I don't see the Beehaw team trying to get around work. They have effectively been told by the dev team to build the resources they want to see on Lemmy, and so they are evaluating whether to put those dev hours into the existing platform or a new one.

[–] toasteecup@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a kind of odd situation then.

Per beehaw, they are willing to pay a bounty to get things they want fixed/deved. I read that from one of the admin posts, can't remember if it's the first one linked in the post or second.

If lemmy has effectively said "go dev it" why hasn't beehaw paid developers to handle the requests?

Maybe my radar is off but something seems a little weird between those two statements

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If lemmy has effectively said "go dev it" why hasn't beehaw paid developers to handle the requests?

Because Beehaw is evaluating whether doing so is a good idea or not, and a lot of that goes into whether Beehaw believes that Lemmy is a platform that can continue to fit its needs. So Beehaw is evaluating several options:

Fund development within the Lemmy ecosystem.
Fork Lemmy to get full control over development and fund the fork.
Design and build a new platform from scratch.
Do nothing.

Based on what was written, Beehaw admins seem to be leaning towards option 3 given the current quality of the existing code and lack of confidence in Lemmy devs.

And this kind of high level concept development is typical of organizations when choosing to spend money. It isn't just a choice between spending money to fund development or not.

[–] toasteecup@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I appreciate the breakdown.

Definitely helps to contextualize things a bit but I'm still left wondering if option 3 actually helps drive beehaw's end goal.

The way I first read it suggested to me that they were going to code something from scratch which I'd argue takes time away from building a community.

But rereading it, you might be meaning building something from new on a different tech stack. Which would make much more sense.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does Beehaw have the experience and money needed to develop a new platform?