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So much politics going on in this map.

The eternal UK ๐Ÿค Portugal alliance and the awkward space it creates between them.

Spain and Poland are in the same timezones.

The weird corridor created by Belarus.

Ukraine is in a separate tz from Russia, I wonder when that was established

What the hell is going on with the light blue in the east?

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[โ€“] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That'd be most of them I think. Though it is right that we didn't change back after the war because it's convenient for business. And now everybody's holding off on getting rid of DST because some countries prefer permanent summer time and others permanent winter time (fucking degenerates, no I will not take anyone else's opinion on this, I am tired of explaining to people that time is made up but business hours won't change and therefore winter time = less/no daylight for office workers).

Anyway point is we'd probably have seen several countries switch timezones or off DST if business was not a concern.

[โ€“] snooggums@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Getting rid of DST and keeping standard (winter) time means the same winters we currently have. The sun just sets and rises 'earlier' during the summer according to clocks if they weren't set to DST.

[โ€“] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that's the part I'm pissed off about. I get off work at 5:30, so I don't get to be out in the sun for MONTHS whereas if we were in summer time I would be able to catch the sunset even in December.

[โ€“] verysoft@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

When time comes up, everybody seems to forget that working hours can just change too. Why ruin the whole organisation of timezones by being in summer time randomly if you can be in regular time and just shift the working hours if you have a problem with it?

[โ€“] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's wishful thinking. Offices/shops/etc. will be open 8-6pm and that's just the way they're going to operate, because that's what's in the work contracts, insurance contracts, etc. It's fixed in stone.

However we do have a very powerful tool to shift the working hours for everyone: move the damn clocks one hour. Why is it such a catastrophe that the sun would be at its zenith at 1pm?

[โ€“] verysoft@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Id rather the sun doesnt rise at 8am.

[โ€“] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol you must live quite far south then. Here on the solstice, the sun rises at 8:40 and sets at 16:40 on winter time. Which means that most people don't get to see the sun before or after work; best case scenario is you start at 9 so you get a bit of sun on your commute, but it's not like you can depend on it for your circadian rhythm because you should already be well awake by the time you take the wheel of your car/bicycle/whatever...

At least with "summer" time I'd be able to see the sun for a little bit before it sets at 17:40 so I can start my free time with a bit of daylight, rather than optimize my day for the miserable early morning commute.

[โ€“] verysoft@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You are correct, the sun would be rising at like 9am, yuck. You've convinced me, I'd rather keep regular time for sure, winters are fine as they are, but the extra sun at night in summer is pointless, while the extra light at night in winter would be nice, it's not the end of the world as it is and a poor trade-off for such dark and grim mornings.

[โ€“] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Nah, the sun already rises at 9am for me. With summer time it would rise at close to 10am, but in either case I'm already in the office by then so why should I care?

I'm assuming you live MUCH further south than me, but that's the point I'm trying to make: you'll never gave the Italians, Germans, and Scandinavians agree on a single time zone without DST.