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[–] Solemarc@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you probably don't need to learn it, Deno was a massive upgrade over Node and it didn't matter, not convinced this will be any different.

[–] nonearther@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

IMO, deno's approach was bad as it was reinventing the wheel, so one had to relearn. And then they brought package.json which they said they wouldn't. This again got people to unlearn and relearn things.

Bun, on the other hand, acts like what Typescript is to Javascript. It's just feels like superset of Node, instead of completely different tool.

I expect Bun will get more success than Deno.

[–] snowe@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Makes sense. Deno was created by the same person that created node. They’re both going to be terrible, especially when they ignore everything ever discovered in software engineering about writing good code, good frameworks, good languages, etc.

[–] sip@programming.dev -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

deno was also created by one of the guys who created node.

[–] snowe@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] sip@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

sorry, brainfart. I read "bun is created as the same who created node" 🤦🏻‍♂️

[–] snowe@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

gotcha. I don't think bun is created by the same person that created node. deno is, and has just as bad a design as node as a result. it honestly baffling that people trust someone to write a language who failed so badly to write a language that they set back the entire world for decades to come.

[–] sip@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

idk I think people can learn from their mistakes and evolve. especially if they accept collaboration and RFCs.

I haven't worked much with deno, so I can't tell. But I earn my living with Node and it's ok. I still hate js more than node itself.

[–] sip@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

idk I think people can learn from their mistakes and evolve. especially if they accept collaboration and RFCs.

I haven't worked much with deno, so I can't tell. But I earn my living with Node and it's ok. I dislike js way more than node itself.

I guess all the hate is around module resolution and package management.