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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This has nothing to do with being Ukrainian, but everything to do with being American, and actively working against American interests and official national and White house policies.

He is actively working against the support USA is providing, and has paid him for, and has ordered him not to sabotage or diminish.

This is treason, which is logical, since Elon Musk is a Trump supporter and they are both traitors and Elon Musk is a pedophile Nazi.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While I think we can all agree that it's treasonous or at least treason adjacent, it however does not meet the specific legal definition of Treason used by the US. Like most of the rich and powerful he's threading legal loopholes to do what he wants without actually violating the letter of any laws while simultaneously stomping all over the spirit of them. There's a strong argument to be made that he is committing sabotage against Ukraine, but once again that's not technically illegal in the US. I don't even think Ukraine has an extradition treaty with the US, so even if Musk was charged and convicted in Ukraine, there isn't really anything they could do about it.

At the end of the day, Ukraine fucked up by trusting and relying on a private contractor for their critical infrastructure. They were in a bind and needed a solution so they leapt at the first one that was dangled in front of them, but it was a hasty decision that has bitten them in the long run. For better or worse there's a reason that no nation relies on infrastructure they don't control for military support, and it's exactly this situation. Even if the hardware was manufactured by a contractor, they would make sure their country was the ones in control of it. Starlink should have been at best an emergency stopgap while Ukraine found another long term solution specifically because it puts their military at the mercy of the whims of a foreign national (not to mention the operational security nightmare where now they have a private US corporation able to literally watch and track their military movements in real time).

Elon Musk is a pedophile Nazi.

While I think Musk is a slimy piece of shit that's made a career out of stealing credit for other peoples ideas, this might be going too far.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

While I think Musk is a slimy piece of shit that’s made a career out of stealing credit for other peoples ideas, this might be going too far.

Pedophile is something Elon Musk himself apparently finds it appropriate to call people he disagree with. So I call him a pedophile because I disagree with him.

A Nazi is because he has shown quite a bit of Nazi like opinions and sympathies.

Here he is literally using Nazi imagery: https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-shared-twitter-meme-nazi-soldier-image-2022-11?r=US&IR=T

Also I think it's fair to call Russia a Nazi regime, and Musk has shown several times he sympathizes with Russia, and he has used Russian talking points about Ukraine.

Same goes for Trump and his very clear Russian sympathies and connections, and Elon Musk is a Trump supporter.

So all in all, it's seems to me absolutely fair to call Elon Musk a pedophile Nazi. It's not a title I generally use about other people, only Elon Musk, because he deserves that title 100%.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

The US government never paid him to provide military service in Ukraine.