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[–] orclev@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (13 children)

That and therapy is treating the symptoms but not the underlying cause. Therapy can help you heal, but when every week brings a new trauma you're just treading water.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (9 children)

That and therapy is treating the symptoms but not the underlying cause.

As a therapist, I have to object and say that’s not good therapy. Even when the underlying cause is something external to yourself that you do not have control over, a competent therapist should be working with you on how you can minimize contact, manage contact better, or completely escape said external stressor. A complete fix may not be possible, but there’s usually room for improvement.

Regardless, it’s incorrect to say therapy treats symptoms, but not underlying cases. Underlying causes are focused on all the time.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Can you help me escape politicians who are taking away the ability for women to have safe abortions, attempt to overthrow the government, and their voters who brag about it by flying fascist flags on their cars? What about massive inflation without a similar rise in income that is needed just to survive?

Thanks in advance.

Yes this is snarky, but the stressors that most people are talking about in this thread are completely out of their control AND things they can't just avoid.

[–] ExpensiveConstant@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you help me escape politicians who are taking away the ability for women to have safe abortions, attempt to overthrow the government, and their voters who brag about it by flying fascist flags on their cars? What about massive inflation without a similar rise in income that is needed just to survive?

Nope, that's going to take a lot of work to do anything about. What (imo) your therapist should be helping you do is develop strategies that let you deal with your anxieties. If therapy was only for dealing with things after the fact I don't think I would be doing it because I agree with you, we can't escape all the awful shit in the world but what we can do is make it not so debilitating that you can't do anything.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So a therapist can help a woman in Texas get an abortion and overcome inflation?

Great to hear!

[–] ExpensiveConstant@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm confused, I thought I was pretty clear that therapy isn't going to fix any of the societal issues that give you anxiety, it's not supposed to...

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The original point was that therapy doesn't address the underlying problem. It led to the post above:

If therapy was only for dealing with things after the fact I don't think I would be doing it because I agree with you, we can't escape all the awful shit in the world but what we can do is make it not so debilitating that you can't do anything.

Which doesn't address the underlying issues or solve anything when it comes to actual problems that directly impact people. It is also worded as if the therapy helps by avoiding the awful shit so someone can do something. Which probably means not letting stress about one thing keep you from doing something else you can control, but in the context of the comment it was replying to could be read as doing something about the examples.

Therapy is great for addressing personal issues such as anxiety and trauma that are keeping someone from successfully acting on things they do have control over. But when it comes to things people can't control it is just a coping mechanism that doesn't solve the underlying problems that someone is reasonably responding to with frustration and helplessness. Yet it keeps being suggested as a solution.

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