SEE SECOND EDIT DOWN BELOW
Lets not beat around the bush here, lots of people like to look at boobs and dicks.
Lemmynsfw was looking like a good place to go, but reading the "Loli" announcement thread where they equate drawn child porn to petite women, its clear the owner is not the right person to be hosting a NSFW instance for the majority of people.
Is there anywhere else that people can recommend?
There is undoubtably a need for such an instance. Can we discuss this like adults?
edit: UPDATE
Take this update as you will
I'm taking it as a backtrack, but it's still not an instance I want to associate with.
Lots of people keen to offer their opinion of drawn picture of naked kids, haven't seen any alternatives though
Edit 2: At this point I think their updated rules are good. It took a bit to get there, but in the end they appear to be taking a hard stance. Hopefully this is enforced.
I dont think it was a case of "whoops bad English" like they are suggesting, I think it was a total 180 backflip. This doesnt really instill confidence in the admins IMO, but im happy that they have made the right decision in regards to allowed content. Hopefully this is was just some early wobblies and the community can move on.
I was pretty shocked by m/random. It's not a nsfw magazine and yet it is full of porn from lemmynsfw.com. I'm not anti porn, but I was a bit shocked as I'm just flicking through kbin at home.
My problem isn't with NSFW stuff being allowed on the fediverse. I think there is a place for it.
I just want it to be a place where I don't have to scroll past drawn pictures of naked kids.
Lemmynsfw can do whatever they want. They aren't going to be the place that the majority of people want to visit when it allows that shit though.
The point of this thread is to highlight that the server in question likely isn't the place most people who are looking for NSFW is looking for, and to find out if there are any other alternatives
m/random provides unsorted/uncategorized posts. so basically just a mess of everything across the fediverse, along with stuff that people intentionally post in there.
yep. do you not see a problem with this?
why would I have a problem with a fediverse site showing federated content? if I didn't want to look at an unsorted/uncategorized collection of posts I'd simply ignore m/random.
and ignore m/all? Even if I enable 'hide adult content', it still shows up because it is not flagged as adult content. what is the point of having nsfw flags if nsfw content is being posted in communities/magazines that are not nsfw communities? I like having a look through /all every now and then, it's a nice way to find new communities. But when there are heaps of nsfw posts in it well you can see an issue can arise. I take it you don't have kids? Like I said earlier, I have no issue with nsfw content. I just think it should not be something that appears without looking for it. To note: there is no age verification on any of these servers yet.
If anything from across the fediverse can appear on the front page of an instance, that is going to open that instance to a certain level of risk. I mean, it's been less than a week and we're already discussing the possibility of CP appearing on kbin.social. Is @ernest ok with the prospect that depicted CP could be on his server?
you might not have a problem with it, but others may.
I agree that proper tagging and filtering should be in place. Personally my preference is to show all content, but to blur nsfw until hovering over it. proper tagging is a win for everyone.
and yes, I think that having "all" as the default front page is an odd decision. I'm opposed to defederating, but I'm a big advocate for people controlling and curating their own experience and what they see. in that regard, I agree there should be good tools for filtering this stuff on the user-level.
You're surprised that the internet is full of porn?
it's kinda funny the people most up in arms about loli/shota stuff are also the ones telling people to not "kinkshame".
OMFG this is why I hate the "you can't kink shame bullshit" I have no fucking problem shaming pedos, necros and rapist, they deserve the utmost shame for the trash they are.
loli/shota has nothing to do with pedos
necro for fictional content is harmless, and rape is the most common kink among women; cnc is a thing.
but thanks for proving my point. no one is defending pedos here.
you are, actually!
Yes, it does have to do with pedos, you are just unwilling to admit you are a pedo.
also I am not proving your point, obviously I am just fine with "kink shaming" that is the reason you are mad at me right now.
I'm not even into loli stuff so lol. if I date a man is he a pedo? is that how you think?
are you over 18? and is the man over 18? then that's fine, no shit?
are we just asking dumb questions now?
so then what is the issue with an anime character who is 18+ and loli?
Because those two things are incongruent and you know it, you just choose to ignore it. there is no such thing as an 18+ loli, and don't bother telling me there is because no there is not.
you're gonna flip when you find out oppai loli is a thing which is biologically impossible to be a child.
no I am not now fuck off pedo
My kinks might make me a degenerate but not a criminal. I will shame pedos like you till I die
see this is why weebs do not take anti-loli people seriously. you accuse me of being a pedophile simply because I'm speaking the facts.
I honestly have no intent on using kbin for nsfw, and the sort of content discussed isn't my preference anyway. The nsfw content I look at involve 30 year old anime characters who are not loli/shota lol. you're barking up the wrong tree with your moralizing.
Stop talking about weebs like we're all nonce that agree with you. Plenty of us are against child porn and are fully aware that loli explicitly refers to kids, as that is LITERALLY the fucking definition of the word and even in Japan lolicon is synonymous with pedo.
Stop going to bat to defend pedophiles