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  1. We're trying to improving working conditions and pay.

  2. We're trying to reduce the numbers of hours a person has to work.

  3. We talk about the end of paid work being mandatory for survival.

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[–] HellAwaits@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

So I'm not against wanting a better work/life balance. I'm all for unions, teleworks, paid family leave, etc., but you should have to work. This idea that people should not want to work is stupid and makes this community the laughing stock of the internet.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The end of work is not the end of labor. The goal of ending work is better described as destroying work as it exists now, with the exploitation and coercion required to make people work.

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] RegularGoose@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There already is. It's "work reform."

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

And yet here we are on "antiwork" talking about how you didn't consent to work...?

[–] EnmaAi22@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

You also need to define the word work. For some theories there is a distinction between work and labor, each having different undertones and nuances.

I'm all for abolishing Work completely, but labour must still be done, and will be done through natural stimulation

[–] socsa@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago

Socialism is when nobody works.

  • Karl "CORAL!" Marx
[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let the disabled starve?

Allow for bonded servitude?

Perhaps you might want to elaborate.

[–] SamboT@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's a lot of intersection between the set of folk who believe in obligatory work and who believe in culling undesirables.

Having been called lazy all my life (despite having had lifelong major depression) I'm more than wary of when people like to suggest, as Thessalonians advises The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.

When my symptoms were most severe I was so unwilling to work I spent nine months in my bed, barely able to crawl to the kitchen or bathroom. I had no will to work or play or watch TV, or lift my limbs.

So, yeah when someone opines a work mandate, I get spooked.

[–] SamboT@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago

Whatever gets you off