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With the 2024 presidential race beginning to unfold, Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont said he believes that President Joe Biden will again earn the Democratic nomination — and the president likely win reelection if he runs on a strong progressive campaign.

"I think at this moment ... we have got to bring the progressive community together to say, you know what, we're going to fight for a progressive agenda but we cannot have four more years of Donald Trump in the White House," Sanders said Sunday on "Face the Nation."

Sanders endorsed Mr. Biden in April. Sanders referenced several of those issues in underscoring what he believes is the importance of building "a strong progressive agenda" to win the presidency in 2024.

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[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
[–] admiralteal@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Primaries have a purpose. Vote in them.

Don't go around telling progressives to throw away their votes and let conservatives win in the general elections. Do that and you're a colossal piece of shit working for the big bad. I'm tired of people like you helping get Republicans elected because you think principles matter more than the things they exist to defend.

Linking to clips about an election where literally one of the more progressive democratic candidates of my lifetime lost to Bush thanks largely to progressives failing at the GOTV and a major third-party spoiler candidate. Fuck, man, at least have a sense of self-reflection.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Primaries have a purpose.

i remember the 2016 primary. the purpose was to coronate a candidate i didn't want.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago

an election where literally one of the more progressive democratic candidates of my lifetime lost to Bush thanks largely to progressives failing at the GOTV and a major third-party spoiler candidate

gore won florida. the supreme court coronated bush.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Your principle is the status quo. My principle is egalitarianism. I’m tired of people like you telling us we can’t have democracy because it risks fascism. As if the Democratic Party wouldn’t go fascist to preserve their power. They’ve already proven they will.. Demand more for your vote! Join the dissidents at CornelWest24.org. Or https://beehaw.org/c/cornelwest2024@slrpnk.net

[–] norbert@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's difficult to believe West is anything but an ivory tower academic trying to elevate his status on the national stage; I know he has a lot of opinion pieces (a lot I even agree with) but has he ever held any office at all? He's not a real candidate, best case scenario he's got his own angle he's working.

That's the best case. Worst case scenario he's funded by some shady PACs looking to divide the (true) left vote and spoil 2024. You really think subconsciously racist white-America (think NIMBYs) are going to vote for a self-described "non Marxist socialist" that looks like this I have my doubts friend-o!

That being said, I support Dr. Wests voice in the conversation and hope he can be an intelligent advocate for thoughtful policies, even if he's not ready for the presidency.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

All that could be true, but that’s not what’s driving voters to his candidacy. This country needs a fundamental overhaul of its infrastructure to prepare for the climate to come. The duopoly will be over, it just hasn’t recognized it. The goal is to pull Biden and the corporate Dems as far left as possible to the needs of the citizens. We can do it by threatening the vote, not by falling in line to maintain this flawed electoral system. I understand it’s frightening, because the threat of fascism is real. But as Mark Watney says, “Fortune favors the brave.”

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your principle is idealism with no concessions to reality. Keep dreaming, old man.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Says the guy that would have been perturbed because people complained about King George before the Revolutionary War. People like you prevent progress from happening. Never change, literally.