They think Gas is too expensive because of the red take and lack of drilling on federal lands (lack of new permits at least) I don't care much about EVS either. I mean, they just take pollution from one place to another and they are better on the environment, but you have drive it for a few years for them to be better on the environment. They are not going to solve climate change.

Public Transit is severely lacking, we need more trains and bicycle paths. Buses, yeah sure, why not. They are going to be diesel busses because Electronic busses don't make that much sense either.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah I'm gonna be anti drilling in public lands and national parks on pretty much every front there.

And let's remember that just even though a solution isn't perfect, it doesn't mean it's a bad solution. EVs are not perfect. But they're better than continuing to burn fossil fuels. Then if something still better comes along we can upgrade again. Gas powered cars were not the first form of transit and EVs won't be the last form.

[–] Subject6051@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

That saving of gas on each stage of removing those third party for cars.

I don't pretend to know all the answers, but don't you think scalability is a problem? I mean, for the EVS. I love EVS alright, but I don't think they are as scalable as we think they are. (Talking about mining minerals electricity and other stuff necessary for EVS here)

[–] TheDeadCell@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While you are right that EVs just move pollution from one place to another, that other place doesn't have to be a traditional power plant. If we are able to transfer to green energy, like wind, solar, or nuclear, those cars suddenly become a lot better for the environment.

As for drilling public lands, I strongly disagree. If we can build more green energy sources instead, we will become less reliant on oil and the prices might drop with lower demand. Drilling public land is a great way to ruin the area for years.

[–] Subject6051@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If we are able to transfer to green energy, like wind, solar, or nuclear, those cars suddenly become a lot better for the environment

Most of the countries we get minerals from aren't really stable, so I question how much investment in Green Energy we can actually do there knowing that ROI is not really guaranteed.

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sodium Ion batteries are entering the market now that solve all our problems with sourcing those battery minerals. Lithium batteries will only be needed for the small things like phones within a few years.

[–] Subject6051@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Sodium Ion batteries are entering the market now that solve all our problems with sourcing those battery minerals. Lithium batteries will only be needed for the small things like phones within a few years.

cool! that's some positive news! thanks

[–] CustodialTeapot@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While yes they do move from one to another. Are you aware how stupidly inefficient car engines are and the amount of fuel used to transport the petrol/diesel to each and every gas station?

That saving of gas on each stage of removing those third party for cars.

[–] Subject6051@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know gas powered engines have been for a long time, but do you think there's anything we can do to make it more efficient?

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Not burning the gas up rapidly in monster trucks would be the best improvement we could do with gas vehicles. Massive square behemoths with 8-liter engines are not helping.

Lighter cars with smaller engines and turbochargers, designed for sleek aerodynamic wind flow are what we can do to make gas engine vehicles more efficient.