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When somebody asks why you're a vegan (lemmy.sdf.org)
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[โ€“] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would be VERY interested in seeing the paper on that. Because all I've read about it is that bees are sentient because they react to painful stimuli, but that's about the extent of it. To say they have feelings in any meaningful way is an entirely different conversation.

[โ€“] nova@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I'm no scientist, I've just read the tl;drs. It seems clear they're more than just automatas.

Obviously people can draw the line wherever they want, but the more you nitpick about what qualities make a being okay to eat or use, the blurrier the line gets. Veganism seeks to exclude all potential suffering to err on the side of caution. I mean, honey is NOT a vital ingredient to our lives whatsoever. It's not like it takes much effort to avoid.