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[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I expect that's not what ancaps mean when they talk about 'physical removal', but it is a good undertaking for anyone who's not oriented towards cruelty.

Alternatively, there can be no middle class without a lower class simply by definition of 'middle'. XD

[–] cacheson@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I mean, a classless society would be a genuinely good thing. It's very important that your means of creating said society matches the values that you want that society to have, though. Authoritarian communists fail pretty hard on that front.

[–] SneakyThunder@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Phisical removal" is a meme. Hoppe originally used the phrase when writing about people who ideologically oppose anarchy (in established anarchist society). And he didn't mean a "helicopter ride", he meant societal pressure, shunning, or in his own words " you're not welcome here" attitude.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I know damn well what Hoppe meant, and 'physical removal' being a meme no more absolves it of its connotations than 'God-Emperor Trump' being a meme absolves MAGA idiots who use it. Hoppe's view of an anarchist society is quite explicitly- you know what, why don't I let him own words speak for him?

if only towns and villages could and would do what they did as a matter of course until well into the nineteenth century in Europe and the United States: to post signs regarding entrance requirements to the town, and once in town for entering specific pieces of property (no beggars, bums, or homeless, but also no Moslems, Hindus, Jews, Catholics, etc.); to expel as trespassers those who do not fulfill these requirements

[–] cacheson@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Hoppe

anarchist

No.