this post was submitted on 03 Sep 2023
330 points (88.9% liked)

MeanwhileOnGrad

1346 readers
3 users here now

"Oh, this is calamity! Calamity! Oh no, he's on the floor!"

Welcome to MoG!


Meanwhile On Grad


Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!


What is a Tankie?


Alternatively, a detailed blog post about Tankies.

(caution of biased source)


Basic Rules:

Sh.itjust.works Instance rules apply! If you are from other instances, please be mindful of the rules. — Basically, don't be a dick.

Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.

Apologia(Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism, Islamic Terrorism or any variation of Tankie Ideology.

Revisionism — No downplaying or denying atrocities past and present. Calling Tankies shills, foreign/federal agents, or bots also falls under this rule. Extremists exist. They are real. Do not call them shills or fake users as it handwaves their extremism.

Tankies can explain their views but may be criticised or attacked for them. Any slight infraction on the rules above will immediately earn a warning and possibly a ban.

Off-topic Discussion — Do not discuss unrelated topics to the point of derailing the thread. Stay focused on the direct content of the post as opposed to arguing.

You'll be warned if you're violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically only last 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction will double the amount. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time.


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] cacheson@kbin.social 80 points 1 year ago (4 children)

On the contrary, mocking tankies and fascists wherever they are found is good and necessary.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 37 points 1 year ago

Tankies and fascists must never feel welcome, and for the same reasons. Even Chompskyites, monarchists, and ancaps pale in comparison. Tankies and fascists have no interest in being part of a functioning community that isn't run by them.

... though I might suggest making ancaps unwelcome simply to avoid the inevitable age of consent arguments.

[–] MonsieurHedge@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why did you say fascist twice?

[–] cacheson@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I won't normally try to correct people on it, but fascists and tankies aren't quite the same. The latter are vile authoritarians, but fascism is a more specific thing, even if it's still kind of fuzzy and hard to nail down.

Though if you just meant it as a joke, carry on. o7

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tankies are vile human beings with an ultimately good goal (even if no real way of achieving it with their methods).

Fascists are vile human beings with vile goals.

[–] arefx@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

We're still better off with none of them, however

[–] ZodiacSF1969@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wouldn't say the goal is good. Some aspects of it, yes, even if I don't agree with it. But they openly call for violence against those they disagree with. I wouldn't call that good.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, I would call that the method. Generally, they theoretically are still calling for an end-goal of stateless communism.

[–] ZodiacSF1969@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

A goal that will never be reached because it is a utopian dream. Human flaws will stop it occurring everytime, and that's where the big problems are. They can only achieve it through violence, and every time it's been tried that violence ends up being used to shore up the power of the few at the top.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

well said comrade. here's a ration