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If so, was it polled somewhere?

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[–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

you're the one who came up with that reasoning. I said they are authoritarian to avoid being destroyed by capitalists.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

authoritarian towards what purpose

towards being radically conservative and ultra-nationalist.

Yes, please let us all forget what you typed not 20 min ago.

[–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was talking about far-right governments

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, and China and russia are far right due to the authoritative government. I don't care why the government is authoritarian, oppression is oppression.

[–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Was the Civil War far right? Was Reconstruction far right?

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh and here it is, the American shit pulled out of storage.

YES! The world looks upon your fetid empire of cheese and right wing politics and weeps.

[–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you're dodging the point so blatantly here. Was it inherently right wing to use violence to force the confederates to free their slaves and disband their secessionist army, and then to use political repression to interfere, however ineffectively, with southern efforts to keep their way of life alive after the war. Was the authoritarian means they used – warfare and political repression — inherently right wing, even though the objective was to free enslaved people.

yes, I know that many in the union were racist too, and grant and sherman participated in the genocides of american indian tribes, and all of that. that's not what we're talking about though, we're talking about authoritarianism, and whether authoritarianism specifically is what makes something right wing.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are dodging this entire topic. I will not discuss any USA history, and I stand by my statement. Authoritarian is far right, all of these examples were authoritarian actions where taken are by the current definition far right.

[–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is Cuba right wing? Yes or no. You dodged that question right at the start and changed the subject to China and Russia. Is Cuba right wing.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes. Since the leadership has transitioned to a family rule and has become authoritarian in protecting the brother, it by current definition would be far right.

Edit: also you are confusing me with another person, I was the one that pointed out you cherry picking your nations.

[–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm speechless tbh. I don't know what I can say to someone who calls Cuba right wing. You are inventing your own language.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Read the current definition and dispute it then. They if I am not mistaken might have a new leader as of 2021, this would go a long way to prove they are not an authoritarian government.

[–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the ideological commitment of the Cuban government is to achieve the equality of human beings, by abolishing capitalism and fighting bigotry. America, just across the water, has made it necessary for them to adopt a degree of authoritarianism to protect themselves. It is actually fucking absurd to call them right wing. Take care, I don't want to continue this.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No America comparison, do the work. I believe in you.

[–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not a comparison, I am saying America is hostile to Cuba, and Cuba adopts authoritarian measures to counter American subversion. America has been trying to topple the Cuban government and starve the population for decades. You have reddit disease where you're really condescending despite not knowing anything.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Cool, now we have reddit in the mix. What would you say to the fact I have never once posted on reddit?

I am saying (and asking you to disprove) that any country that is authoritarian is by definition far right (as the left/right spectrum is defined by the use of authoritarian practices or lack there of).