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[–] TheBlue22@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Seems like this community really despises Vaush for no fucking reason huh

[–] audaxdreik@pawb.social 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I wouldn't say "no reason".

I'm not gonna do a whole Vaush teardown here, but it's amazing how he always seems to align himself against a lot of the other leftist YouTubers I have watched and respected for years.

His obsessive need to tout his "rightness" on all matters is extremely abrasive and off-putting. He likes to cite diversity of tactics as a reason for engaging in debate the way he does, but then also doesn't respect anyone that can't debate their position. I've read a lot of philosophy and political commentary over the years, I know what I believe, but if you put me up against him I'd crumble on the spot. I couldn't debate to save my life, it's a particular skill. Watching him angrily yell at other leftists is not furthering the points he thinks it is.

Being able to win a debate doesn't make you right, and losing one doesn't make you wrong. He's just another pig in the mud.

[–] LeylaaLovee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago

Great breakdown on why even if Vaush wasn't a piece of shit (he is) his debate format is inherently problematic. Ben Shapiro can win debates, I used to copy his style when I was in debate class. Not completely, but definitely used the speaking at a weirdly fast pace to make it hard to follow

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