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Young climate activist tells Greenpeace to drop ‘old-fashioned’ anti-nuclear stance
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When she can tell me a practical, long-term, solution to nuclear waste, demonstrate that a nuclear bomb is not a military target, sure.
We just saw Japan release nuclear waste into the ocean for lack of a solution (to the waste from a fucking nuclear disaster) , don't tell me it's not a problem.
Yes I know coal emits radioactive waste, I'm not a coal advocate.
Here are few things to consider:
Thank you, could not have said it better. Nuclear is the way forward, at least until fusion energy is viable.
Even still, it still needs to be transported, stored in specialized facilities, etc. All that transport and resource usage isn't free and must be considered as part of the cost of nuclear.
Direct fatalities is a poor metric for nuclear safety.
Those are great arguments for not doing those things as well. These are things that massive unsustainable human populations make use of and are not necessary to thriving human populations.
This depends on the type of waste, and how radioactive it is. The overwhelming majority of nuclear waste is low level, and capable of being safely stored in steel/concrete casks. The higher level stuff can be safely stored in exhausted mines.
All power sources are inherently military targets, so you've defined an impossible task.
Additionally, you can design a plant to be a lower risk target in the case of an attack. We've had decades of research put into how to make these plants safe.
https://sgp.fas.org/crs/homesec/RL34331.pdf
https://theconversation.com/how-to-protect-nuclear-plants-from-terrorists-57094
I'm not thrilled with it either, but the waste they are releasing is diluted.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-66610977
The water they are releasing is basically no different than the radioactivity of normal sea water.
I would also emphasize that nuclear reactor =/= nuclear bomb. Power reactors cannot under any circumstances cause a nuclear explosion.
The solution to pollution is dilution! right!?
In the case of radioactive water, yes. Our oceans are huge, and there is no real impact.
This is what humans have been saying about auto exhaust, factory emissions, agricultural emissions etc for a hundred years. It's turned out wrong in every way.
(edit) Now that I think about it, isn't your position basically the same as the right wing position on climate change? That even if it exists humans are too small to actually effect the huge atmosphere so it's not human caused.
"The amount of X that industry is dumping into the Y is insignificant and nothing to be concerned about" is an inherently flawed argument, and all the worse when there are 8 billion people on the planet.
There is a key difference, fossil fuel use inherently ends up leaving pollution in the atmosphere, nuclear power does not do anything of the same.
Nope. It's not even close
That's not even close to what I am saying.
All sea water is radioactive already, and has been since before humans got nukes. And thats because all sea water has tritium at low levels. When we release water that is at the same level as sea water, nothing changes.
It's like adding a red ball or playdoh to a red ball of playdoh. There's not going to be a difference. Fossil fuels on the other hand would be like adding a black ball of playdoh to a red one.
Maybe learn some science before you sound stupid in public? That waste water was cleaner than your drinking water.
lol