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[–] Talaraine@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago (6 children)

It's time developers come to grips with the fact that making choices matter is what makes it a successful game. I'm tired of storylines that don't make any sense except to give you a world to kill people in. Sorry folks, lore is important and that takes writers.

Stop treating them like afterthoughts.

[–] Wooly@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

It definitely depends on the game, I'm perfectly happy with a game that has a story to tell, and tells it well. Not everything needs to have branching options and 50+ hour playtime. Some of the best stories I've played are short and railroady, WaW and BO1 campaing's are fantastically interesting and you don't make a single choice in them.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I would say if it is all about the gameplay, like Serious Sam or Doom, then the story doesn't need to be that important and dexisions don't need to matter. But if the story is front and center, like Baldur's Gate and most similar RPGs, the story and how choices impact the story need to be well done so it doesn't feel on rails and replaying it is enjoyable.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I personally am perfectly happy with a game that's all about mechanics and gameplay.

But the extremely rare game that actually is well written is nice to see.

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I don't think the lack of choices is necessarily a bad thing. The original Doom had no story choices (it barely even had a story) and it's still pretty good even by today's standards. Half-Life 1 and 2 pretty much had no story choices as well (there was 1 at the end of the first game) and the first one in particular is considered revolutionizing how stories are presented in games.

What I do think is an issue is when the game presents you with a choice that doesn't matter. Bioshock Infinite is the first that comes to mind as the game puts quite a few options front and center, but really none of them matter (except the very last one) and the game even implies that the choices deliberately don't matter because "constants and variables". Thus those choices, at least for me, detracted from the story because there was never no need to make me make a choice.

In that sense I agree that choices should matter, but I think a better wording is that if you're going to have choices make them matter or don't have choices in the first place.

[–] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It gets super confusing when you do stuff in the wrong order though. Missing a clue because you didn't read the right book or something but then randomly finding the end of the quest and everyone is talking like we know all about it.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago

Usually it recognizes it. Sometimes it doesn't though. I'd hope those instances get patches eventually. Even worse though is when something triggers for something you didn't even do. I've had a party member get angry at me for something that I did the opposite of. It's a pretty solid game, but it's not totally bug free, which is expected with so much complexity. Who knows, it could have just been a cosmic ray that flipped a bit and not even their fault (though I doubt it).