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[โ€“] OverfedRaccoon@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

As an alternative, there's also Native Alpha and Hermit (my personal favorite) on Android. Play with the settings to make it full screen and frameless (no address bar at the top). It also has pull down to refresh.

On kbin, you can then go to your settings and sticky the navbar as well so that it's always at the top as you browse. Personal preference and all that.

[โ€“] brnk@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Jerboa is a good alternative for Android, too. I've been using it for a bit now and it seems to work great.

[โ€“] spiritedpause@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[โ€“] Whirlgirl9@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

thank you so much for that. worked like a champ and i don't have that black hole staring at me anymore :)

[โ€“] TooMuchDog@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just tried installing kbin as described in the post and downloading Hermit and I'm not really seeing a difference between the two options. Am I just missing something?

Personal preferences. I like to keep my stuff self-contained. This keeps browsing in the Hermit environment for that PWA rather than in your browser. You aren't really missing anything though. It might just not suit your needs and be redundant.

[โ€“] syboxez@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hermit isn't open source. This makes the code not publicly auditable, which means that verification of security by a third party is impossible.

[โ€“] OverfedRaccoon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would you happen to know if Native Alpha is offhand?

[โ€“] syboxez@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah. Native Alpha is open source.

[โ€“] OverfedRaccoon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Awesome. Thanks. I'll probably make the switch then. ๐Ÿ‘

[โ€“] syboxez@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just keep in mind that it uses your system's WebView. If you're not rooted/don't have a custom ROM, that's likely going to be Google's proprietary version of Chrome.

I use DivestOS, which comes with Mulch WebView.

[โ€“] V6277@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wait, where's the option to sticky the top bar? I am not seeing it in my settings but maybe I'm just blind.

[โ€“] OverfedRaccoon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is on kbin. Username in the upper right, Settings, scroll down through the stuff there and stop when you see the Delete Account button. Look for the small cog and click it. Turn on the option to sticky navbar - you may want to toggle infinite scrolling and maybe the show icons options while there as well.

[โ€“] V6277@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh wow that was kind of hidden, but you just improved this site for me so much. Thank you! Some of these seem better defaults than what is present.

[โ€“] syboxez@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Infinite scrolling not being default makes sense IMO. It's a highly addictive feature, and a bit part of these open source, federated communities is they try to avoid the addictiveness that big tech platforms try to enforce onto their users if possible.

Sometimes the feature is highly liked by people, so they add it as a non-default option.

[โ€“] H4@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

If you click on compact view you get the settings page for that

[โ€“] ChrV@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I tried Hermit before, assumed these features will be locked in premium and didn't try it more, thank you!

Any idea why it changed my top bar color to gray while the icons (wifi, etc) are black? It's not a dealbreaker but it would be nice if there's a solution I'm missing.

[โ€“] OverfedRaccoon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Surprisingly, those particular features aren't locked behind premium. As for the top bar color, you might be able to change the theme in Lemmy/kbin itself in your profile settings to one that suits what you're looking for. Unless you mean in Hermit itself. In that case, I'm not sure - I use it frameless.

[โ€“] Cryst@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Sick! Thanks!!

[โ€“] boysmithers@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Really nice, thanks for the tips!

[โ€“] amenotef@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I tried Hermit and noticed that Voyager doesn't automatically switch between Dark and Light theme (in the night / morning). Workaround is to kill (force close) the app and open it again.

Do you also face this issue? I can't remember if with Chrome I was facing it..

[โ€“] OverfedRaccoon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It saved my sessions in Hermit, so I don't think I had that issue. But I definitely had that issue when using Brave with it not saving my settings/session between loads.

[โ€“] amenotef@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now I'm trying this "Native Alpha" app. And with this one seems to adapt the system theme (dark or light) without needing a restart of the power app.

I think I'll keep this app to run voyager!

[โ€“] OverfedRaccoon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For what it's worth, Native Alpha is also open source. I found that out after the fact. So if that's something you value, Native Alpha might be the better choice overall. Hope it serves you well!

[โ€“] amenotef@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes and it also works out of the box for (I haven't had to change any setting...). For example in the other app I had to configure some stuff to hide the top URL bar or something similar.

Here I just added wefwef url app, I created the icon and voilร !