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[–] oce@jlai.lu 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Everything is about money, not about having an actual human experience.

Human experience is still there, everywhere. You have to make the effort to get out of your burrow and do things outside with physical people.

[–] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.ml 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's hard to make an effort when all your energy goes into survival. Wasn't the point of "civilization" to not have to worry about all of that?

[–] oce@jlai.lu 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes it should, but modernity also made us less reliant on the group and I think it made use more introvert and more social risk averse. This is something that can be worked on with reasonable cost.

[–] Soundhole@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago

Alienation is a product of Capitalism, not 'modernity.'

[–] RegularGoose@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Human experience has been almost entirely privatized. If you're poor, you're denied most of it.

[–] Mir@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What do you mean by that? Go find a sport/hobby. Clubs aren't expensive at all.

[–] RegularGoose@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Human experience isn't just hanging out with other people. It includes going to other places, experiencing what the world has to offer. You can't do much of that, if any, when you're living paycheck to paycheck like most people.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In social countries, they give you money for hobbies if you have low salaries.

[–] RegularGoose@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Holy shit. One more little reason to hope the civil war comes quickly so I can flee as a refugee to a semi-civilized country.

[–] oce@jlai.lu -1 points 1 year ago

Are non-profit associations rare in your place? They are very present around me, all my hobbies are covered.

[–] DingusKhan@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Where do I go? I have no idea what to do

[–] oce@jlai.lu 4 points 1 year ago

Try to find an association near your place, sports, arts, gardening, nature exploration, table top games, whatever you like.

[–] rurb@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

As a default, a spouse and kids will rope you into decades of regular social interaction.

[–] ineedaunion@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] oce@jlai.lu -1 points 1 year ago

Your local gardening association should have shovels.

[–] TehPers@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I think this varies from place to place. In some places, I've definitely felt like going out and interacting with physical people was too dangerous, since the culture was along the lines of "everyone for themselves" and "don't trust anyone". That being said, I've also lived in places where the people around me were extremely friendly, so for many people that opportunity still does exist.

For the people who feel like going out and interacting with strangers is dangerous, I think it might help to go to specific places where the kinds of people you want to meet would also go to (and the kinds of people you want to avoid wouldn't go to), although that can be hard to find.