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Includes lore like how a instance got it's name, how an instance got defederated, how an admin got doxxed, fedihistory etc

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Beehaw.org has announced they will be defederating from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works (lemmy.ca)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Gray@lemmy.ca to c/fediverselore@lemmy.ca

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I find this news disconcerting coming from such a large instance so early on. Many of the criticisms of Lemmy I've been fighting against on Reddit have had to do with defederation and the possibility of getting cut off from your favorite communities on your main account. I handwaved that away as being extremely unlikely save for the exception of NSFW or extreme political content. But this news has taken me quite by surprise. Perhaps I should have seen it coming given the community Beehaw is trying to foster.

This really makes me wonder what will happen to instances that make this decision. Will their communities diminish in favor of the more accessible ones? Will this decision hurt Beehaw in the long run? What does this mean for the Fediverse in the near future when fighting against its detractors has been such an uphill battle?

Thoughts?

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[–] Gray@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think the main issue we run into with the concept of a user account server is that banning needs to be an ability that someone somewhere has. If someone starts posting some highly illegal content we need a way to ban them. But then invariably giving someone that power is exactly what centralization is. Separating that one user server into multiple leads to other awkward outcomes as I posted elsewhere in this thread. Namely, you end up back where we started where certain instances ban certain user servers that are known to host problematic people.

[–] kat@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I guess it would put the pressure on instances to individually ban someone from participating in certain communities, but we'd have no real way to fully ban a person who is posting illegal things. But that's kinda true if someone makes their own instance now and begins posting illegal stuff - I assume other instances have to ban that person anyway.

[–] hikaru755@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Even with a centralized user server, you could set it up so that no content is actually hosted there, and banning could still happen on the instance level, exactly as it is right now.