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[–] rogerhaase@mastodon.social 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

@Firipu @Wilshire No. There is internet access in Russia. Every russian knows what's going on.
No pity for the orcs. They come to murder.

[–] Firipu@startrek.website 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

That's a very simple way of putting things imo :)

The west also has internet access. Some people still end up hateful/believing in flat earth/conspiracy theories.

That doesn't mean they're bad people, just very misguided.

[–] SomeGuyNamedPaul@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately their misguidance is putting them in a position where they're there to kill Ukranians, and asking nicely didn't get them to not be there.

[–] Alchemy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I think they’re bad people.

[–] rogerhaase@mastodon.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Firipu It is always strange that there are people who pity the perpetrator and not the victim.

The war on Ukraine is not a natural disaster. It is made by russians. Go Figure!

[–] Firipu@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago

Oh, I feel equally bad, or even worse when I see what happens to Ukrainians. My heart bleeds for what they're going through.

That doesn't mean I can't feel empathy for individual people that get killed in the blink of an eye...

[–] yata@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

That distinction is completely pointless though. Misguided people murdering people still needs to be stopped, with violence if necessary. And it definitely is necessary when we are talking about them invading another country and murdering its citizens.

[–] sgo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Internet ≠ Internet. It’s heavily censored and monitored in Russia. They don’t have access to all the information we do. Plus, all other media are brainwashing them with propaganda. Makes it hard to believe if some website tells a completely different story.

However, there are those who stay informed and don’t support the war. They just can’t do it openly.