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Some folks on here have been repeating this garbage as well

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[–] evranch@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They don't end up homeless, they end up packed into houses at densities that Canadian-born people are unwilling to accept. I used to do service/maintenance work as an electrician and you would walk into a 2 bedroom apartment to see 10-15 people from 3 generations living there.

They say we need to increase density but this is actually just decreasing the standard of living. The way economics works, if people are willing to live like sardines to pay the rent, soon people will be required to live like sardines to pay the rent.

I'm not anti-immigration myself and where I live (SK) actually does need more population, but the immigration rate has to be decreased as Canada's public services and housing stock are being pushed to the limits. And something needs to be done about all immigrants ending up in the big 3 cities. Back when Canada was built, they mandated that people move out to the Prairies or other underpopulated areas if they wanted to come at all. That's why we have such a volume of German, Ukrainian, Scandinavian people here in SK - they were sent here and they stayed here, and built our rural communities.

[–] villasv@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They say we need to increase density but this is actually just decreasing the standard of living.

The most enjoyable places I've ever lived and visited were by far the densest ones. To each their own, I guess. And Vancouver which is supposedly the densest city is still at 1/3 of the density of a city like Barcelona (which is an amazing place). That's why I love downtown Vancouver, because it's the densest region of the densest city.

[–] evranch@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry maybe I wasn't clear, I didn't mean that increasing density decreases standard of living, I meant over-occupying spaces that aren't built for the purpose decreases standard of living. In many parts of the world a family lives in a single room, but that doesn't mean Canada has to do it too.

High density requires planned infrastructure to support it, and suddenly having houses in the suburbs with 20 people living in them is not a healthy form of density.

[–] villasv@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Ah sorry, the "this" in "this is just decreasing standard of living" was meant to refer to people cramming up, not to "increase density". Thanks for clarifying.

Well, we agree on that. Cheers to planned infrastructure instead of rooming in the suburbs.