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[–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russian here. Just to clarify, most of us won't get upset if someone says "Fuck Russia", as we understand that you mean "Fuck the Russian state" - lots of us been saying the same for a long time, as, believe it or not, living in an authoritarian state ain't fun.

The line gets crossed when people say "Fuck Russians", call for oppressive measure against Russian nationals, celebrate their deaths or even outright attack them. That's fucked up.

[–] FarceMultiplier@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Overall, I agree with your points.

Unfortunately though, Putin himself isn't raping Ukrainian women, blowing up kids, destroying crops, etc. That's on the Russians who are in Ukraine doing these things. As they showed in Nuremberg, following orders is not an excuse.

[–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is all done by soldiers, who are out there in the battlefield. Most of them don't have no phones nor internet. The only ones who would ever hear such message are not the ones involved in it. None of my friends raped Ukrainian women, nobody in my family blew kids up, I personally didn't destroy any crops, why accuse all of us of something we didn't do? Words like that are just pushing away people who don't believe Putin's lies.

[–] FarceMultiplier@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

As I said...

That's on the Russians who are in Ukraine doing these things.

Are your friends in Ukraine doing these things? I said there are Russians doing these things, not Putin. Other innocent Russians of course should not be blamed for the actions of these people, but innocent Russians should stop blaming mean people on the internet and instead call out the citizens who are making Russians look bad through committing war crimes.