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A US-Backed, Far Right–Led Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War (jacobin.com)
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[–] jorgesumle@lemmy.pt 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What do you mean?

[–] bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Russia signed the Budapest Memorandum, and in return Ukraine gave up their nuclear deterrent.

The memoranda, signed in Patria Hall at the Budapest Convention Center with US Ambassador Donald M. Blinken amongst others in attendance,[3] prohibited the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom and the United States from threatening or using military force or economic coercion against Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan, "except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations." As a result of other agreements and the memorandum, between 1993 and 1996, Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum

Are you going to argue that Russia is acting in self defense?

[–] gun@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

The Budapest Memorandum was violated and therefore nullified before 2014. It literally says that in your wikipedia article

[–] jorgesumle@lemmy.pt 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you going to argue that Russia is acting in self defense?

It seems like both regimes violated their treaties: Kiev Violates Minsk Agreement Causing Fighting To Resume In Ukraine. There was also an oral treaty that talked about eastern expansion of NATO (which some call "a terrorist organization"), but it wasn't written, as far as I know. The USA also acted in "self-defense" against many countries, nearly 400 according to Wikipedia.

[–] Francisco@lemmy.pt 1 points 1 year ago

Also, why does Russia not have loads of troops near the border with Finland?

Surely, if NATO is such a threat. Why?