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Police in England installed an AI camera system along a major road. It caught almost 300 drivers in its first 3 days.::An AI camera system installed along a major road in England caught 300 offenses in its first 3 days.There were 180 seat belt offenses and 117 mobile phone

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[–] i_r_n00b@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (13 children)

The slippery slope is what makes this not okay. It's a completely unnecessary invasion of privacy in the guise of "safety".

I'd love to see some statistics showing that these things are anything other than an additional tax on the drivers. This is bad for everyone and it desensitizes you and opens the door to further surveillance I'm the future.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

It isn't though.

It isn't unnecessary invasion of privacy. You have no expectation of privacy when driving around on public streets, and to say you're allowed to break the law and use personal privacy as an excuse is absurd.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Yeah people say this but it isn't really true. If I was following, posting logs, taking photos, posting online those photos and logs of some kid in your family I am pretty sure this would bother you. Way back in my uni days there was an incident about someone doing that to the coeds on campus. The school was able to stop it solely because he used the school computer not by some legal mechanism.

You only think you have no expectation of privacy when no one tries to violate it.

[–] steltek@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A beautiful strawman. This is about driving and traffic enforcement by the government, not creepy campus stalking by a crazy person.

There is no conceivable reality where the government will publicly post your movements for everyone to see based this system. None.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does expectation of privacy disappear if there is no abuse? I wonder because expectation of privacy is about belief not based on motivations or integrity of others.

[–] steltek@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're still beating up that strawman. Expectations of privacy change based on context. Driving = no. Walking around = yes.

At least in the US, I believe this is actual legal case law so I'm not making stuff up here.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

So I am allowed to use a radar detector and record cops?

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