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[โ€“] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 86 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Most would agree with your point - right up until you suggest that having an "uncorrupt government" is remotely possible.

Pretty much the same level of unrealistic idealism as folks who think it's remotely possible to transition a state to communism without it turning into authoritarianism.

There, now I've pissed off everyone lol

Edit: Except, I guess for the hardcore capitalists, but I assume those guys are all too dumb to read, so no point, really ๐Ÿคท

[โ€“] BearGun@ttrpg.network 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Luckily an entirely uncorrupt government is not necessary, since that is indeed quite unlikely to ever happen. It is enough to have low corruption, which is much more achievable.

[โ€“] Treemaster099@pawb.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly at this point, even a low corruption government seems harder than balancing a boulder on a toothpick for the super powers of the world

[โ€“] Gadg8eer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe so, but... That might be because China and America have too much international power. Power attracts the corrupt and global power attracts the most corrupt on the globe.

[โ€“] noobdoomguy8658@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

There's a book about why power seems to attract this sort of people - can't remember the name right now, might update later.

In short, it's not power on its own, but rather the systems we built around and for power, making it unattractive for people we want to end up in power, while the people who we don't want to end up in power pursue it regardless because they want power for the sake of it.

What I'm trying to say is, this is another issue that we can actually tackle and solve to a large degree. There's hope!

[โ€“] ComradeSpood@lemmyunchained.net 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Except me, your friendly neighborhood anarcho-communist

[โ€“] meteorswarm@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Came here to post this. Sure seems like states are the problem here...

[โ€“] cmbabul@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Same, I have no problem with any of that

[โ€“] uis@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

FINALLY! My searches had ended! I found anarcho-communist!

[โ€“] ComradeSpood@lemmyunchained.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should spread the word about lemmyunleashed.net its a really small instance that operates democratically. I'm the only ancom here (that I know of) but I think it'd be a great place for anarchists due to its direct democratic nature. And anarchists don't really have a space of their own on lemmy that I know of

Or we should start our own instance, but idk how to do that so someone else will need to figure that out lol

[โ€“] Robaque@feddit.it 2 points 1 year ago

Sup, Comrade Spood (โŒโ– โ€ฟโ– )

[โ€“] Cabrio@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Edit: Except, I guess for the hardcore capitalists, but I assume those guys are all too dumb to read, so no point, really ๐Ÿคท

Checks out.

[โ€“] uis@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

same level of unrealistic idealism as folks who think it's remotely possible to transition a state to communism without it turning into authoritarianism.

same level of unrealistic idealism as folks who think it's remotely possible to transition a state to communism from authoritarianism.

[โ€“] Robaque@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago

No, you're right. Anarchism is the way (: