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[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If real people hate your game because of the changes you made from the last one (that you took away from them), that's not a review bomb.

It's just a review.

[–] CraigeryTheKid@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the game/steam release definitely deserved bad reviews - but it'd be hard to deny that it wasn't also a bombing run.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

A review bomb is when people start jumping down the game's throat with negative reviews for shit unrelated/peripheral to the game. If they're triggered by the actual core design choices of the game it isn't a review bomb.

These reviews are because the game is a money grubbing downgrade from the game people bought and had taken away from them, and this is the first opportunity they had to publish a review on a storefront. The motivation being the actual game means it can't be a review bomb.

[–] crossmr@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So if General motors was using slave labour to build their cars and feeding said labour with baby kittens, would you consider it a review bomb for someone to say 'You shouldn't buy the latest vehicle from General motors because of the way it is made'?

What if general motors came out and said that they think a great start to the day is to wake up and punch a dutchman in the face?

A review is, ultimately, a recommendation of whether or not you think other people should buy this product. If you can't recommend it because of something the company who made it did, to me, it's still a review. Because recommending that product is recommending financial support of that company. Not recommending it, is not supporting them.

For me a real review bomb would occur generally only in a case where a site like 4chan might suddenly spin a wheel of mayhem and pick a random game to just go shit on or something like that.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

By definition, yes, that's a review bomb. It has no connection in any way to the quality of the product, which is what a review is.

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If they're still playing the game anyway, I might call that a review bomb.

[–] hook@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

No, it's still a review because you're still actively dealing with whatever it is you're complaining about.

"Hey, I really like/liked the core game play loop of this game but I think that it's gotten significantly worse than it was previously. It'd be nice if they changed it back?

4/10."

[–] 520@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Plenty of people leave negative reviews for games they otherwise play. Especially where big changes are put into effect

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[–] cre0@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So overwatch 2 is objectively terrible, but putting that aside for a moment…

Can you seriously not envision a scenario where you personally do a thing (maybe even enjoy that thing), but still wouldn’t recommend it to others?

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you seriously envision a scenario where the worst game of all time is among the most-played?

[–] cre0@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ah okay I see you’re the kind of kid who answers a question with a question. 🤦‍♂️

Enjoy picking petty fights over… who likes which video game better. Not really my dig kiddo

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[–] Primarily0617@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You're entirely disconnected to reality if you think Overwatch 2 deserves to be the worst-reviewed game on Steam.

[–] TwilightVulpine@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

On Steam being reviewed poorly is not a matter of rating from 1 to 10, but how many people would recommend it or not. It's completely valid that the vast majority of people would not recommend this game even if it's not a 0/10.

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[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Based on what?

The negatives are extremely bad, and people are legitimately reviewing the game negatively because they legitimately think it's a pile of shit.

It is literally unconditionally impossible for it to be a review bomb if the reviews are motivated by the core design decisions of the game.

[–] Primarily0617@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Today's concurrent player peak is ~47k.

Why would 47k people choose to play the game when it's the worst game on Steam? Literally worse than a game like Bad Rats: the Rats' Revenge that fundamentally doesn't function correctly. For reference, its peak today was about 20 players.

Before you reply with something like "marketing", you seriously think that if Bad Rats launched today, and with the same marketing budget as OW2, that it would achieve anywhere close to 47k players peak 10 months after its release?

Like I said: you're disconnected from reality if you think OW2 is the worst game on Steam.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (31 children)

Did bad rats deliberately steal a game people liked to replace it with an addiction machine?

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[–] TwilightVulpine@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are really trying to downplay the power of marketing, but you seem to realize that gets people playing. Not only that but live service design is very effective at keeping people playing even when they are not having any fun whatsoever. Because they gotta grind the battle pass and such. Extrinsic rewards and habit-forming conditioning making up for a lack of intrinsic enjoyment.

Still, I would agree with you that it's not the worst game on Steam, but like I mentioned in the other comment, that's not what steam ratings mean. It means that the vast majority people would not recommend it, and that seems pretty reasonable.

[–] Primarily0617@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

bf2042 had a playercount in the high 1000s 2 months after its launch

ow2 released 10 months ago

are you saying bf2042 didn't have marketing?

which is more likely:

  • 50k people have been brainwashed into playing the game every day, and similar numbers into watching it on twitch
  • there is review bombing
[–] TwilightVulpine@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Doesn't look like you even read my full comment so I'm gonna wait till you do.

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