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Why lemmy.world should not defederate from beehaw.org. (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 year ago by FantasticFox@lemmy.world to c/lemmyworld@lemmy.world
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What defederating would mean:

  • We won't see beehaw.org posts/comments on other instances.

Pros:

  • There is less confusion, you can't respond to a beehaw.org user, thinking they will be able to see your response when in reality they cannot.

Cons:

  • We won't be able to see any beehaw.org comments/posts on other instances, so we will miss out on some comment threads and posts. It could be good to be able to see them and interact with the other users there even though beehaw.org users won't see any of our content.

Summary

Overall, I think it is better not to defederate, but simply unsubscribe from all of their communities (and as we no longer get posts from their instance, with time these will cease to appear on our 'front page').

beehaw.org users already can't see our posts/comments anywhere so it's not like defederating would change their experience in any way, so it wouldn't really be retaliation and would just limit the content available to lemmy.world users.

What do you think?

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[โ€“] nivenkos@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

"Liberals" that want the entire instance moderated by only 5 people - managing all user registrations, community creation and the moderation of every post and comment on every community.

It's crazy. We left Reddit to get away from powermods and admins.

[โ€“] majkeli@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They want to protect their users from trolls. Blame the trolls.

[โ€“] maporita@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

If you are so fragile that you need to be protected from a troll then maybe the internet is not the right place for you.

[โ€“] maporita@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

I don't know how "Liberal" came to be synonymous with fragile snowflake. People have been misusing the word for ages .. especially in the US. The original Liberal (and I'm proud to claim to be one) puts free speech front and center of their world view. It's the cornerstone of democracy. And free speech also means the freedom to offend .. it's a price well worth paying.

[โ€“] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I personally think you have the wrong mindset. Each Lemmy instance is started with a certain vision in mind, and it's fine - great even - that they differ. No one is confined to an instance; you can move to another if the one you're on doesn't work for you.

So if the mods of Beehaw think it's best to shut out certain other instances, that's fine. I've seen posts by a number of people there saying they agree with the decision. People that don't can find a different instance. And, unlike Reddit, that doesn't mean finding a whole new site or app, it's just a new home port on the same trade route.