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[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 97 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The only conceivable reason not to declassify the docs this old is embarrassment. There should be an automatic sunset for classified docs.

[–] Kinglink@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There's certain secrets which can never be revealed.

Imagine if America somehow caused the death of Queen Elizabeth ( as far as I know there's no evidence of this just an example.) It would take centuries for it be ok to reveal this with out ruining American English relations. This is intended as just a thought experiment to see how bad a country would take it.

And if you think "Nah they don't have anything that bad." The way America has fucked over the world with it's KNOWN foreign policy... there's 0 chance that we don't have many many many skeletons in our closet. I guarantee we've assassinated people. Potentially Leaders (no matter what Carter said). I guarantee we've interfered with elections, or even fully rigged elections. We've probably handed over dangerous weapons to countries. We've almost certainly done devastating things to multiple people in the world.

And think of everything we've done to our own people. Just think of what we HAVE admitted. The Tuskegee Experiments? That's what we HAVE admitted to. I'm guarantee as well that's not the worst thing our government has done to their own citizens. I mean imagine if we find out the FBI threatened the president, or actually did kill Kennedy or even just any involvement in that? Holy shit, there's "Think something happened" And there's "Know something happened"... that's not getting revealed.

Should we have an automatic sunset for classified documents? Sure. Should we stop doing awful shit? Yes. But my god, the amount of skeletons in our closet and what will happen when it's all out in the open.... it won't be released. Hell I'm willing to bet there's thing that aren't even shared with the president (Maybe because he doesn't know what to ask for or they flat out wouldn't share it with him. There are limitations to what is shared with a president, for instance an investigation into him.)

Or maybe all classified documents will accidentally be destroyed in a fire the day before they're to be released. OOPS!

[–] silvercove@lemdro.id 4 points 1 year ago

with out ruining American English relations

Those relations should be ruined if that happened.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

In terms of superpowers messing up the world with foreign policy- compared to European/Soviet colonialism the US and China have both done well.

[–] fosiacat@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

so basically what you’re saying is they should be able to act with impunity no matter what? how about responsibility?

[–] charliespider@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nice strawman. The gist of their entire comment was summed up nicely when they stated "it won't be released"

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago
[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

or maybe they can’t declassify the documents because they’re all still at trumps house

[–] FrostyTheDoo@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Actually I heard Biden can still declassify them in his mind and it counts