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[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Calling it Populism is already giving them ground. It's Fake Populism. It's manufactured and funded by the elite class, rather than advocated for and created by the working class.

[–] shadowspirit@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fake populism. What a bullshit statement. Populism is populism. The message either resonates or doesn't. The fact that we're discussing it suggests that it resonates. So what do we do about it? To agree with your argument is the reason why Trump became president. As a society we cannot discount discontent regardless of the ideology. There are a lot of pissed off people on this planet for various reasons. If the song or message didn't resonate we wouldn't be talking about it so it's not fake. A rich man paid for a poor man song. So who is the sucker? The person who believes it or the person who argues against it? It is what it is but it's not fake if you hold an opinion and that's the point.

I heard the song and like the beat and now I'm reading a thread where I feel like a bad person for enjoying a song for just being a song. Was in a thread earlier today about Sherman and the civil war. Has there ever been a war fought by the rich man on behalf of the poor man? The answer is no. At the extreme the question is are we willing to die for our beliefs?

There is a large swathe of people who are disenfranchised maybe we should care. The root cause is what is important but we often fall into debates about ideology without addressing the systemic issues.

My opinion is we have far more in common with the people around us than we care to or are capable of realizing. We all struggle so it's important to first empathize and then determine from what root these opinions are derived. Granted, some are fake but many are genuine.

EDIT: sorry, realize this became a wall of text and I'm half drunk and half-baked but I hope I made a coherent argument for both sides. If the discourse is civil it's a healthy conversation to have and an argument worth having. The problem with "mainstream media " is that debate never actually happens it's always cultivated in forums like this we can have healthy conversations and disagreements. Have a good evening folks.