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[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Signal kinda put themselves out of the messaging app battle when they dropped SMS support

I totally get why they did it, but I think a lot of people stopped using it for this reason, unfortunately

[–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't really want to start a debate on the Signal SMS dropout but ...

They could have put a big red warning and a disclaimer you have to read once for the unsecured SMS. It would have been fine.

Yes, you would have to maintain that but I think it would definitely have been worth it considering how much reach they lost dropping this feature.

I stopped using Signal when they did, and that's one less tech user advertising their secure app.

It's a shame because I think this will slowly kill the project.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

I tend to agree

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think anyone uses or cares about SMS where I live

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lucky you. SMS is still the primary way people message each other where I live.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's rough. I guess at least it's universal

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't mind it so much. At least it's not Facebook Messenger or Whatsapp. I'd rather die than put those on my phone.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Facebook Messenger is dogshit but WhatsApp works well imo. More features than sms or even rcs. Dogshit privacy though, even if security might be good.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've never used it, and I never intend to. I know SMS isn't ideal for privacy, but at least I can use FOSS apps to interact with it, and it doesn't mandate intrusive features like "reactions" or read receipts

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure what's intrusive about reactions but you can turn off read receipts. Yeah it isn't ideal either but video calls, sending media/files, group chats (do NOT suggest MMS. Never MMS.) and so on. Lots of features, secure, but yeah privacy is dogshit. Signal is great but I've only managed to convert a few people to it.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd welcome the chance to use something more privacy based than Signal

I just never like reactions in an app used for general messaging. They make sense on a more memey plaything like Discord, but not in a messaging app that I'm supposed to take seriously as my primary way to communicate. In fact, simple text only without any other formatting would be ideal. That's kinda what I like about this place, with the exception of upvotes/downvotes, which could be removed for all I care.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think images can be useful and even reactions when it's a (large) group chat. Haven't had anyone use them 1-1

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've got a group chat going in SMS with several family members, and I always cringe when I get the message "[brother] laughed at an image," and I don't even know what fucking image it was because I don't have an iPhone.

Reactions just seem like something that should have never been implemented in a place where they're not universally supported. Maybe I'd feel different with Signal, since I could simply not pay any attention to them. But if someone can't simply have the time to say "I like that," then why even react at all? I don't need to know that you lived, laughed, loved at my image.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's less annoying with a large group chat to have people react to an image than 20 identical messages. I've seen some do group votes through that (👍 vs 👎) which seems like a good use case. Tbh I haven't seen people use reactions much so probably partly because of that they don't bother me.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago

I guess it would be preferable to getting all the disembodied "x laughed at an image" or "x loved an image" messages without even knowing which image it refers to. One could simply ignore the feature if it were less intrusive.